After reading some of the above content regarding GE, I'm reconsidering
buying this line. (there was mention of a GE dishwasher having valve
problems, and a GE frig recall fiasco........maybe something I missed
I'm rehabbing the kitchen and was planning to do replace the appliances
with the GE Profile line. This makes me wonder......
Any opinions about the Profile, or about GE in general ??
I'm hearing scary things here so far.
The amazing thing is Consumer Reports wasn't as harsh.
I had a $400 GE microwave that pooped out twice in a year, where the
computer fried itself. It also had a broken handle, even though there was
no locking latch (you simply pulled the door open...no button to push). I
still can't believe this thing died so fast. I've had a Panasonic microwave
that traveled with me from Germany, to Oklahoma, to California, and is still
chugging along after being given to my mother, 15 years after I bought it.
The GE microwave was installed above the stove, while the Panasonic's been
shoved back and forth more than Paris Hilton's panties. There's just no
excuse for the GE unit giving up the ghost like that.
Other than extremely cheap Christmas lights (on sale December 27), I have
bought my last GE product, including all the rebranded stuff.
I've had very good luck with Kenmore, and Sears did a fantastic installation
job on my washer, dryer, fridge, dishwasher, and central A/C. The washer
and dryer were a real pain, and they came out twice just to get it the way I
wanted (issue with the way the doors opened). I did have to do some
bitching about the microwave installation, as the guy that came out didn't
see the need for a duct going from the microwave to the ceiling (there was
already a duct from the ceiling to the roof), but eventually he did it.
I was told their water softeners were junk, but I have no experience with
Consumer Reports doesn't test in a real world environment, and they don't
test that long. It's much like Popular Science with their long term test
cars. Sorry, but 15k miles isn't long term.
Anyway, I'd recommend to anybody to stay away from GE. I'm not so sure
about Maytag anymore, and Panasonic doesn't make all the gear a kitchen
needs. I do like Bosch. They have some very elegant appliances, and a good
reputation. The wife wanted Kenmore, so there ya go, but I haven't had a
I still have my very first Panasonic microwave, made circa 1977. It
was delivered by truck to a depot, no other shipper would handle it.
It's a consurem model. That does not mean another one made by
Panasonic will last 6 months.
Same for other stuff. I'm afraid to toss anything that's fixable.
Chances are, your old applience will outlast the new one after fixing.
The story is pretty much the same on all brands of all appliences.
From A/C to sewing machines. Many once good brands have gone to the
dogs by design and now they will be made in China to boot.
....both wrote of long-lasting (in this case Panasonic) items...
We still are using the first regrigerator my folks bought when we first
got power in 1948. It is, coincidentally, a GE, purchased by Dad as
Mom's Christmas in 1948. It has had one door seal and a couple of other
minor repairs since and has run continuously since it was first plugged
in. Doubt there's much chance of the new one we put in upstairs two
years ago will last anything close to 20 years, what more approach 60...
The really disappointing thing wrt to new applicances is that this old
gal isn't totally unique. :(
Them thing seem to just last forever. The sad part is, you can buy a new
one with all the new features with just the savings in electricity. Here in
CT, they will pay you $50 to haul off that old one to boot.
I had an old 7 cut ft in the basement. Replaced it with an 18 cu ft frost
free and my electric bill went down $10 month.
But it's break even at best, methinks as the new ones will just barely
last long enough for the breakeven period to happen. I've not measured
relative power consumption, but w/ the newer ones w/ auto-defrost, etc.,
I'd be surprised if I could find as much as $10/mo observable
Since this is a second fridge, it was a basic frost free and cost $400.
I've had it more than 4 years so I'm reaping benefits. You'll be rather
surprised at the difference in power consumption in just the past 10 years
let alone 60 years. Don't take my word for it. Call your power company and
get the facts. Look at the amp rating on the nameplate for starters.
Payback will be longer when you add fancy features, but they you are getting
the benefit of those features too. I like them, you may not.
Well, sometimes you get lucky. I have an el cheapo (at the time, expensive
by modern standards) Samsung microwave that I bought 23 (or was it 24?)
years ago, still working fine. 2nd appliance (after a TV) I bought after I
moved up here after college. Gone through 2 or 3 TVs, half a dozen
computers, five or six cars, but the Damn Microwave Just Won't Die.....
LOL... I had the same experience with one of those huge Litton microwaves
[they called ovens back then]. I bought it in 1977, and it died in 2001.
Had even better luck with my Kenmore washer and dryer. Bought them in 1974,
and when Sears carried them off in 2003, the dryer was still working. :)
Feel an obligation to say, there was one repair call in all that time.
Sure makes you wonder where all these *disposable* appliances now, are going
to go in a few more years, doesn't it? I have 3 computers/monitors no one
this is Turtle.
I work on appliances like these but have slowed down on the number for the last
15 years. I will not get into a pick and flick the brands around but will say
window units ; i would Buy Whirlpool , Roper , and Friedrick .
Kitchen Appliances : i would Buy Whirlpool, Roper, Victor, and SubZero.
Everything else is trash !
Run fast!!!! We reoutfitted our kitchen 10 yrs ago with all GE, replacing
the Kenmores which were all in the 20 yr old range, except the dishwasher
which was 10. The new dishwasher has gone thru two motors, the door rails
on the fridge keep falling off and dumping the contents, the range is on its
second timer mechanism which was no better than the first and no matter how
much I level it the rack brackets are not parallel so there is always a
gripe. Not to mention the burners which are all canted. I'm going back to
Sears - there, I said it, Sears and I'm not ashamed.
CR often calls mediocre appliances a good value. Never could figure out
why. I've not subscribed for years now and they seem very biased in what is
and is not important in ratings.
IMO, you get the best appliances with brands like KitchenAid, Whirlpool,
You get sometimes good looks, but lesser reliability with GE, Frigidaire,
and other low end stuff.
Kenmore is a crap shoot unless you know who the maker is.
As always, there will be an exception where someone has one of the "best"
brands and got a lemon, someone else bought a cheapie 30 years ago and it
still works fine.
This is Turtle.
G/E , Frigidaire, Maytag, Fedders, Most Kenmore, and all the low end stuff is
all one company now days.
Whirlpool, Roper , Friedrick , Subzero, and Victor is about all that is left in
the higher end stuff.
Kenmore can be Frigidaire or Whirlpool, maybe others.
Whirlpool, Roper, KitchenAid, Insinkerator. Estate are all one.
Frigidaire makes every low end brand. Hotpoint, Philco, some Kenmore,
Gibson, Westinghouse, White, and a few others.
Maytag and Amana are together, but I forget who else may be part of that.
GE, RCA, Thompson Electronics are one.
I think Fedders is still independent and a big competitor of Frigidaire in
ACs. Fedders does make some AC under the Maytag and Comfort Air labels.
OMG, that would be terrible. According to the Maytag web page, they are
doing well as an independent company.
They own Amana, Hoover, Admiral, JennAir, Magic Chef.
You may be confused because of Hoover. Frigidaire is owned by Electrolux of
This is Turtle.
No , The Owners of these companys are not company that produce something but
Holding LLC companys which are nothing but investor company which cut and
combine resources to put together a company that just plainly makes money. They
have no thought of quality but just selling equipment anyway they can at a good
now some big company that produce something does own other companys but leave
the name alone and show no ownership in their company write up.
Exxon-Moble owns controlling interest in Ramada Inn and International Paper
Company. Go to their website and find where Exxon-Moble is spoke about at all
and find no words of them. Exxon-Moble has Holding companys that buy companys to
hold as having ownership without the public knowing about it.
maytag has been up for sale for about 2 years and the holding company of
Frigidaire are after Maytag. I would have frigidaire should have gotten them by
now by way of the Holding companys.
I thought the Frigidare Maytag was a done deal guess not
The Associated Press
Jul 15 2005
China's global reach has already reshaped the home appliances and
electronics sectors. This year, Lenovo Group Ltd. closed its $1.75 billion
deal to acquire International Business Machines' personal-computer business.
The Chinese television manufacturer TCL Corp. purchased the French company
Thomson, claiming the rights to the RCA logo. A consortium led by the
Chinese home appliance giant Haier Group is pressing to buy Maytag Corp.
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