The plasma display is reminiscent of playing Empire on Plato in the early 70's.
I keep the box as its the smallest ISA machine I had so I can still coax
devices that require ISA slots to work in that box. I've had to do some
surgery over the years (e.g., the "CMOS battery" is a proprietary BIG thing
sourced out of Israel, I think; not the sort of thing I need to keep
"OEM". Likewise, the BIOS ROMs don't support big disks (and no "Type 47"
support) so I had to patch the ROM images and burn new ones to support
the ~600MB disk in there.
| I agree. Anyone who wants to maintain an antique computer or antique
| software needs to first make sure they have everything they will need
| for the foreseeable future. That kind of planning and preparation should
| have started years ago.
While you're teasing people about antiques, be
sure you download Win7 SP1. There's no reason to
count on anything from Microsoft. Broken links is
almost an industry for them. They often rework
things in an attempt to coerce their customers.
(I happen to be writing this on my home-built,
6 month old, 8-core XP rocketship. I have a Win7
computer but it's too slow and naggy for regular
They should still be available, even though XP is no longer supported,
the existing updates should still be available. I turned on my XP
machine recently and got one.
With Win7 there has been a huge slowdown so that might be the case with
XP as well.
Best you can do is turn on auto-update if it's not on already and let
the machine sit there for at least six or eight hours.
BTW: The WSoff-line update utility fetches them right away though
"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
It appears they have cut all XP users off from even the old updates ... I
had to reinstall XP Pro in one of my laptops , and have been unable to get
the updates they used to have from before they dropped support . Is this yet
another move to force us to use their latest crap OS ? Is there anywhere
else these updates can be gotten ?
If you have full version of XP Pro. why you need upgrade
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 4:27:33 PM UTC-4, Tony944 wrote:
I don't know why anyone would need to buy Windows updates.
They are available for free from MSFT, always have been.
AFAIK, with all the products, when they discontinue support
it just means now new updates and fixes. All the existing
ones, right up until the last one are still supposed to be
available. Here MSFT says that is indeed the case for XP.
Will existing updates still be available via Windows Update after April 8, 2014?
Yes, all existing Windows XP updates and fixes will still be available via Windows Update and WSUS.
When I try to update via WU , it tells me my browser is out of date -
running a new install of IE8 ... wsus is downloading them right now for
offline install .
Don Y - I guess this will be my archive of updates .
I have a ~160GB (maybe 250?) external USB drive that is labeled
"Windows Updates". It sits on a shelf waiting to be plugged into
whichever machine "needs" updates (I don't let my machines "talk
to the outside world" so *they* can't "fetch" the updates using
the normal mechanism)
Consider each time you "updated" a machine, you went through the
trouble of downloading those updates -- and then DISCARDING them
after they were installed... :<
(I build computers for local non-profits; I can't afford to tie up
my internet connection 24/7 trying to re-download the very same
files that I just used to "update" the last machine that I built
for the NEXT machine I'm building! And, the machine(s) after that...)
And, not have to be reliant on MS's servers being "up", your inet
connection staying up, etc.
I downloaded a bunch of XP updates just a few weeks ago.. Can't
remember how or where. There is an "unofficial" SP4 available on
Softpedia that installs ALL updates post SP1 for 32 bit XP in one
If you intend to keep using XP and may need to reinstall, download it
There is an unofficial registry patch for XP making the rounds over the
past few years that redefines your XP OS as a Point of Sale device, and
allows you to continue to receive some updates.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
This is dubious; it tries to make your XP system look like it is running
XPe. The two are NOT the same. MS could easily (intentionally or
unintentionally) push an XPe patch that screws up something on XP.
You'd have no way of knowing that this was the case.
It's akin to overclocking a CPU -- it *might* work. And, it might NOT.
And, if it doesn't, you'll never be able to point to "it" as the
conclusive cause of the problem.
It's their product, they can do what they want with it. If you don't
like it, you can always switch to Linux, FreeBSD, etc., or buy a Mac.
XP is 15 years old now, so it's not like they cut it off in its
infancy. Time to move on. Or I suppose you could see if you can pay MS
for support. I guess if you offered them enough money they'd keep you
Too bad you haven't been using Free Software. If you had been, even if
the creators decided they didn't want to support it anymore someone else
could - even you!
+1 This is why I do all my software development under FOSS.
OTOH, most of the "desktop" applications really suck in the FOSS
world; I'm still waiting for a FOSS CAD package that can do what
AutoCAD did 25+ years ago! :<
So, I run XP on those workstations to avail myself of the "better"
software available on that platform.
("Security" not being an issue as the machines aren't routed!)
Why. If your needs did not change, why should you have to upgrade
simply because they made something new?
I know M$ is not making any money on me but I don't care. They are not
providing anything I want.
I've been using Linux since W98SE. I still have a fairly new XP
netbook (eee). Never hurts to have a M$ operating system (OS),
around. But, I NEVER take it online! That is, unless I have a "live"
Linux flash drive to go online, with.
With a "live" Linux flash drive, I never use XP online. I use Linux.
Jes plug the flash drive into a USB port and turn on yer box. With a
"live" Linux flash drive plugged into a USB socket, the XP OS will
never boot. It's Linux only. And when you turn off yer desk/laptop
and unplug yer flash drive, it will be like Linux never existed. No
trace will remain on yer XP computer.
NOTE: yer computer must be new enough (about circa 2000) to be able to
"cold boot" from a flash drive.
In fact TAILS....
....actually ask you if you want a Windows XP desktop (or used to).
If you choose the XP desktop, TAILS boots up with a --for all
practical purposes-- XP desktop. Hit the visible IE icon in the XP
taskbar and Firefox will fire up. Looks like XP, but it's Linux!
IOW, if you know how to use Linux, you could make a desktop that yer
wife would think is Windows. Besides, ppl are NOT born with an innate
knowledge of Windows. Like Linux, it must be learned. Tell yer wife
to open her mind and try and learn something new, instead of merely
advancing her "make yer life a living Hell" skills. ;)
Also, try Mint Linux. It's based on Ubuntu, but is even more
Windows user friendly.
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