other countries. Likely closer to 15. I have seen meters above ground
at street, above ground outside house, and inside houses. I haven't
seen them underground at the street - but I guess if they were
underground I wouldn't see them, would I?? Just as if they were INSIDE
you would be unlikely to see them - unless you purposefully went
looking for them. Not knowing where mine is located you could be in my
house for a week and not know I HAD a meter unless you searched for it
(and got lucky - since you couldn't follow the pipes because, like
MOST basement around here, mine is almost TOTALLY finished.
Anywhere frost is common I've never seen one outside above ground.
Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, PEI, Manitoba,
Sakatchewan, much of BC, Minnesota, Michigan, North Dakota, Idaho,
Michigan, northern New York would have at least a large percentage
inside. I suspect Kansas and oklahoma would too,.
I've seen ouside meters in Florida, Georgia,Tennessee, South Carolina,
and west virginia, as well as parts of Spain, Portugal, Mexico, Italy,
saeveral caribean islands and France. A lot of these places don't all
have water meters.OPr even municipal water.
No water meters in Burkina Faso, Bottswana and Zambia - at least when
I was there.
On 5/29/2012 12:28 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The very typical arrangement where I live and at least the dozen states
around me is indoor water meters. The only time they use an outside
meter pit is for the few places that cannot accommodate a meter. For
example the cemetery where most of my family is buried has a few frost
proof hydrants and there is a meter pit next to the first one.
You've been to the wrong places. Go to Philadelphia and you can see
tens of thousands of indoor gas and water meters. I lived in a row
house with 50 houses just on my block. That street ran about 12
blocks. One of many.
Or here in CT where I can show you thousands of them.
indoors in pittsburgh too. i only saw ONE outdoor meter in pittsburgh
my entire life. it was in a deep sump covered by a steel lid when i
was a child, at a nearby home...
the frost line is at least 4 feet in pittsburgh, and basements are the
Until last year I sent the town my water meter reading every 6 months.
When I bought the house 27 years ago I signed off on the reading the
previous owner read. When the guy replaced it [with a basement,
remote read type] last year he made a note of the old meter reading.
For gas and electric they would estimate if nobody was home to lead
them to the basement every other month. I never had one of them so
I don't know how long they'd estimate before insisting on seeing the
Here in central NJ we have inside water meters.
Up until about 15 years ago, I knew the meter reader well.
He'd ring the bell, I'd let him into the basement and he'd
read the meter. Nice guy.
About 15 years ago they changed the meters and now the meter is
still inside but they have a wire that runs outside with a little
black plastic thing they put their reader up against.
I haven't seen them in a while and I got a notice that they are
going to change these devices so they can read them from the curb.
I don't know if they've done that yet.
But the meter itself is still inside.
Maybe in your part of central NJ, but not here in
the parts of Monmouth county where I've lived.
Here they are underground, at the curb. I'll bet
you're in an actual town. The areas are more rural
That's kind of how they read the meter at the curb,
except the guy doesn't even need to get out of his
That's old school. Mine is wireless. Has a 10 year[25?] battery and
is all digital. There is no activity until it senses a light in the
room, then the LED? screen shows what is going on. I'm a couple
hundred feet from the highway & no one has come up it to 'read' the
during the day. Those meters that could not be accessed for reading
got a notice in the mail, and the home-owner/tennant read the meter
and mailed it in. Just drew the lines on the diagram of the meter to
show where the needle was pointing, in most cases.
On 5/28/2012 11:17 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Well here in the Kansas city area, Most all the water meters are outside
in a well. They are mostly remotely read from the street also. I have
seen one inside in the older part of the plaza area. All the meters are
outside in the rural areas. Silly as it may seem, that's the way it is.
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Here in the Willamette Valley, Oregon, the meters are in the ground at
the curb, and usually less than a foot deep. It just doesn't get cold
enough here to freeze them. I looked up the city codes, and they say
something about the frost line here being 12 inches. I shudder to
think of a winter cold enough to freeze the ground 12 inches deep, it
would be a disaster. We just don't get the cold weather. Rain, yes,
OMG it starts raining at the end of September, and does not stop
raining until the end of May (it is just now starting to dry out),
sometimes the rain continues until mid June. We get about three months
of no rain in the summers, and then the rain starts up again. We have
MUD nine months out of the year, and ironically we have three months
of drought, and by August the forest fires start.
The "wells" sound dangerous. Such a thing only works in moderate climates,
too. When we were in Vermont, several mains, down as far as eight feet, broke
one Winter. It's not unusual for the frost line to go down 7'. Of course,
here the frost line is 6" (that's exaggerated) so a shallow pit (maybe 12")
On 5/29/2012 12:55 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Most all the meters here in the midwest are set somewhere between 18"
and 24". It does get to -20 here, but not for extended periods of time.
I seriously doubt the frost actually goes below 36" anywhere in the us
of a. To say the frost line goes to SEVEN feet would mean ALL the water
lines are buried below that. Is that what you mean to have us believe?
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Yeah, when I was in college, we had a mobile home with a pit like that under
it. The water meter froze every time it got cold.
You're seriously wrong.
Yes. As I said, even the ones down as far as EIGHT feet were rupturing one
Winter. Most are well below that (new subdivisions were easy to spot ;-). The
water line came into my house through the basement floor.
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