all of a sudden near my water heater in the garage something is making a dripping like noise
it sounds like it's the water heater, but no water is seen anywhere
the washing machine is on the other side of the wall, and a little less noise can be heard there
no water leaks to be seen what might this be? [about 2 drips a second]
thanks marc
Does drain plumbing come down inside the wall? Washer is there, so some plubming is in the area. Any chance a condensate drain for an AC, like in the attic, is routed down through that wall, maybe to a basement sump pit?
If the WH had a leak, 2 drops a min, it wouldn't be long before water showed up on the floor.
turn off main water meter valve, open faucets hot and cold to depressurize the system......
does the dripping sound stop?
Gas or Electric? If it's gas, try using a flashlight and looking down the flue hole when it is heating water. You might see mist, indicating a leak in the flue.
A few years ago I began to notice occasional water on top of the water heater. Sometimes it would be there, sometimes not. I checked all of the pipes and fittings and they were always dry, even when there was water on top of the tank. It turned out that just below the top of the tank, a hole had rusting through the flue and mist would blow out whenever the tank was heating water. They mist would rise with the flue gases, make contact with the "inverted funnel" at the base of the external flue and drip back down onto the top of the water heater. If not noticed soon afterwards, it would evaporate.
Perhaps your flue is leaking someplace where you can't see it, and the condensation is dripping someplace, again, where you can't see it.
I heard water running in the basement and went to investigate, water was spraying out the top of the tank at the flue. it was a large leak.
got new tank next day.
thanks all, for ideas
will [have to] investigate further
marc
when I get back home, next week, I'll have to post a photo of my water heater set-up
marc
photos of my water heater setup
I don't know where to look for this dripping-like noise
marc
Only thing I see there that's a bit unusual are the water stains on the sheetrock near the bottom. Is that from something you know about from the past? Any evidence it's wet now, ie that something is leaking inside the wall? The area around the bottom of the WH is all dry and it has a pan.
Do you know why there is apparent water damage/stains at both points where the front of the platform connects to the wall?
Bob mentioned turning off the water main and see if the noise stops. I should have tried this sooner...
I've only had the house several months so don't know much history. Dripping noise started 2 weeks ago.
Will look closer at stains, and get back
thanks marc
I just found this water on the other side of the wall, outside. [the vent is into the garage, near the w.heater]
The water is NOT coming from the pipe, which is probably, somehow part of the w.heater.
what should I do?! where do I start? do I need a professional now?
thanks marc
What makes you so sure that the water isn't coming from the pipe? It sure looks like it from the pic. First thing to figure out is where that pipe goes and what it does. The most likely candidate is that it;s from the TPR valve on the WH. So.....I took a look back at the pics you posted of the WH. And you can't see a TPR. It sure looks like the idiots put it in with the TPR facing into the corner, where you may not even be able to get at it. There is a copper pipe that comes out from the right of the WH, and that must be connected to the TPR valve. Is that copper pipe connected to the PVC that emerges from the outside? It must go somewhere that it could release water if the WH pressure or temp gets too high. Typically they just end above a basement floor or get routed outside. Where is that outside pipe in relation to the WH when we're looking at in inside the garage?
If it's not from the WH, then any chance that PVC is a central AC condensate drain line??
I don't think there's enough water to be a condensate line.
Most likely you called it right as a TPR drip. Really bad installation to hide the TPR and have no shutoff valves anywhere.
But there's another possibility. He says the washer and dryer are just on the other side of that wall, the one to the right seems likely. Washer hoses go bad often, he should check that too.
thanks,
the wall is very wet, and no water is on the pipe end [not to mention, the drip drip drip going on]
I think I have to break open the outer wall and locate this drip, very soon
marc
What makes you say that? In the pic, there is a decent size puddle and you can only see the part that's in the pic, no idea where it ends or runs off to. Also, no idea how much the AC is running or not running.
The only part there that doesn't make sense is the pipe outside is PVC and the pipe at the WH is copper. Then could have transitioned it, but usually you wouldn't.
It could still be the TPR, which might not be connected to that pipe at all. As trader says, it would be unusual to transition copper to PVC, though not impossible.
Or the TPR might be connected to that pipe, and then something else must be leaking.
That's an exterior wall, are you in a climate where something could freeze and burst? Did you check wash machine hoses and drain?
Also you can get an endoscope for $20 or so and just drill a hole. I've not tried that myself but it might be easier than breaking a wall.
If it were me, I'd open the interior wall before I'd open the outer wall. It's much easier to repair and match an interior wall than an exterior wall, especially one with a textured finish. Even if I had to move a washer, dryer, even the water heater, I'd still start inside.
Besides, once you find the leak, an interior wall repair can wait. A hole in the exterior, not so much.
Funny that gas line line has no drip leg.
Greg
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