wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor

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i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor.
However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat.
i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end.
How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building.
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My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see?

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i want the building to be on the ground, but it can't be both plumb and level, if it's touching on uneven ground.
i'm not concerned if there are humps on the floor inside the buidling after its' up, so long as it's structurally sound.
does that make any sense?
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i hadn't thought of that. thanks for the idea.
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I forgot to mention. A laser level will greatly help set the thing level.
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Why not????????? Make the building level, fill in the bottom with treated boards..... Make the siding even all the way around, those treated boards will fill in the gaps, dig them in a little if you want, or else you'll have to rip cut them to fit the soil.
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Mine is the same. If it's a pole building it dont matter. Just set the building level and apply your siding near the ground. I'd apply center match treated boards at the ground level or else you will end up with rotted wood on the bottom. Of course, use treated posts too. You oculd always fill in the low end, or level the whole area too.

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You should check locally to see if there are any codes that you need to meet. You also should consider the possible issue of moisture damage and depending on your design, remember that building without a foundation, especially in areas that freeze, is not a good idea.
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I second and third that espically for such a large building!!!
Moisture is a problem with my shed and it has a concrete floor. I cant imagine the rust with a dirt floor:(
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the floor will come later. i don't have the money for a concrete or wood floor right now.
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If you dig out 3" of dirt, put in plastic, and rake the dirt back in, ground-water is less of a problem.
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i'm planning on setting the posts below the frost line with concrete. is that enough of a foundation, or are you talking about a footer.
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Well I don't think I would go to that much trouble without doing it right myself. As for it being enough, that would depend on the soil, the local weather, the depth of the concrete the total load on the posts the size of the post. etc etc etc.
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The shed will not last long if there is wood contacting the ground (termites).
Then also if it is not well built, the first good wind to come along will blow it down.
Building it so it will last a long time and withstand heavy winds seems contrary to building it on the cheap if you ask me.
Anyway I suppose you can sink poles in the ground which all raise up to the same height, then build your roof. And basically nail boards around the sides (all level) going from the top down. Just nail more boards on the side(s) where the ground is lower. Cut the last bottom boards so they have an angle to match the ground. Make door with a bottom angle to match ground level.

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i was thinking of 4 posts (one in each corner), is that too little to be sturdy for this little outbuilding? i was thinking of pressure treated 4x4's. if i do the 4 post thing, should i be considering larger sized posts?
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Here a link to a google.com search for "pole barn" "wind load". You can get a general idea from reading a lot of these links. If the link below does not work, go to google.com and paste the following in the search box (including quotes)... "pole barn" "wind load"
http://www.google.com/search?num &hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22pole+barn%22+%22wind+load%22&btnG=Search
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How are you planning on spanning the 24 feet between posts, to resist wind-loads?
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i wasn't really thinking of the wind load. something that long would probably act like a sail...
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I am not an engineer or architect but you will definitely need more than 4 4X4 posts for a 12X24' building. Just think about it; how are you ever going to build a wall of conventional sized lumber that is 24' long, supported only at the ends, without it sagging? And 24' long lumber is not exactly common, either. (I almost said it doesn't grow on trees :) )
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