Wall oven junction box location.

Quite simple, it was *you* who posted something asinine and are now trying to cover your ass. Indirection works on dummies but it ain't cutting it here.

You're full of shit. Radiation is proportional to temperature. The burner is far hotter than the back of the oven. Good grief, I knew you were illiterate (you proved it in this thread) but I thought you were some sort of engineer. Guess not.

Just stating the facts. You DO act like one.

You made up the entire bullshit about temperature from the paragraph about wiring insulation ratings and wire ampacity. Keep up the indirection, I'm laughing harder with every post.

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krw
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The old oven has been there for at least 12 years.

old oven did not have these. That is no problem. I wonder though if metal studs would be better to use as runners becasue they are non combustable?

s located on the surface of the drywall directly on the back wall off the o pening and toward the bottom. The directions say, "locate an approved junct ion box, in the suggested location, a minimum of 23 7/8 above the runners".

ith heat from the oven or something else?

locations for the box. One is up high 23 7/7 above the runners. However, o ne picture with no inch markings on it shows a junction box level or below the runners? (It kind of contradicts the obove statement of locating this b ox "above" the runners.

t the switches back the way they were and to add another outlet properly, b y teeing off an existing outlet in the bathroom.

o about 1/2 inch deeper. My box is metal, and is attached flush to the shee trock. It is screwed through the box with a simple wood screw into a stud.

square. Wood on sides and a plywood top and bottom. Below the plywood botto m is a cabinet. Above the plywood top is also a cabinet. The bottom cabinet has drawers that slide in and out. Yp is just an open cabinet with doors.

ction box. It sits flush. There is a connector on the top that the metal sh eath encasing the oven wires attaches to.

how to make the connection then though.- Hide quoted text -

Get a shallow box

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hrhofmann

. The old oven has been there for at least 12 years.

My old oven did not have these. That is no problem. I wonder though if meta l studs would be better to use as runners becasue they are non combustable?

is located on the surface of the drywall directly on the back wall off the opening and toward the bottom. The directions say, "locate an approved jun ction box, in the suggested location, a minimum of 23 7/8 above the runners ".

with heat from the oven or something else?

way to do it?

le locations for the box. One is up high 23 7/7 above the runners. However, one picture with no inch markings on it shows a junction box level or belo w the runners? (It kind of contradicts the obove statement of locating this box "above" the runners.

put the switches back the way they were and to add another outlet properly, by teeing off an existing outlet in the bathroom.

go about 1/2 inch deeper. My box is metal, and is attached flush to the sh eetrock. It is screwed through the box with a simple wood screw into a stud .

a square. Wood on sides and a plywood top and bottom. Below the plywood bot tom is a cabinet. Above the plywood top is also a cabinet. The bottom cabin et has drawers that slide in and out. Yp is just an open cabinet with doors .

unction box. It sits flush. There is a connector on the top that the metal sheath encasing the oven wires attaches to.

re how to make the connection then though.- Hide quoted text -

Or, maybe contact the manufacturer?????!!!!!!!

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hrhofmann

Even if you find something asinine, it doens't equal lying. They are completely different things. Look it up in the dictionary.

Again, how dumb are you? The metal backing of the oven directly behind the oven cavity is going to be the hottest. It's way hotter than the upper 4" or so where the electronics and display are located because there are no heating elements there. In fact there is usually a fan that helps keep that section cool.

Now under what novel physics theory does the metal behind that upper electronics section radiate the same heat as the hotter metal area directly behind the oven?

Once again, I didn't make anything up. And one more time, I'm not the first person in this thread to bring up temperature as a possible reason for the manufacurer specifying that the electric box be either 5" min below the bottom of the oven, or else up in the top 4", ie behind the cooler electronics section. And yeah, I referenced the part in the install manual where they talk about the insulation and temperature issue in the wires coming from the oven.

Here's a simple question for you. What's the max temp rating for Romex today? And is it so high that it's not within the range of what might temp the area directly behind an oven might get to? What was the max temp rating of wire used to connect ovens

50 years ago, that someone could still be using with a new oven today? I say it's entirely possible that the above considerations were responsible for the box mounting locations. Do I know for sure? No and I never said I did.

You of course have no alternate possible explanation, after I quickly smashed the idiotic "interference" proposal. Interference? When they say it has to be 5" min below the bottom of the oven? If it's even 1/32" below the oven there can be no interference.

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trader4

. The old oven has been there for at least 12 years.

My old oven did not have these. That is no problem. I wonder though if meta l studs would be better to use as runners becasue they are non combustable?

is located on the surface of the drywall directly on the back wall off the opening and toward the bottom. The directions say, "locate an approved jun ction box, in the suggested location, a minimum of 23 7/8 above the runners ".

with heat from the oven or something else?

way to do it?

le locations for the box. One is up high 23 7/7 above the runners. However, one picture with no inch markings on it shows a junction box level or belo w the runners? (It kind of contradicts the obove statement of locating this box "above" the runners.

put the switches back the way they were and to add another outlet properly, by teeing off an existing outlet in the bathroom.

go about 1/2 inch deeper. My box is metal, and is attached flush to the sh eetrock. It is screwed through the box with a simple wood screw into a stud .

a square. Wood on sides and a plywood top and bottom. Below the plywood bot tom is a cabinet. Above the plywood top is also a cabinet. The bottom cabin et has drawers that slide in and out. Yp is just an open cabinet with doors .

unction box. It sits flush. There is a connector on the top that the metal sheath encasing the oven wires attaches to.

re how to make the connection then though.- Hide quoted text -

I don't think a shallow box will meet the min volume for the given wires.

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trader4

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