Wall anchors for fireplace mantle

I am going to my daughters house to re-hang up a cue stick holder on a brick wall.
I will also hang a fireplace mantle and she said it is heavy.
I have packed my masonary bits.
What recommendations for hangars for the mantle?
I used Cobra masonary anchors to hang some heavy wrought iron burglar bars for a customer.
Have a great day, Andy
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Isn't the mantle partly recessed into the surrounding area?? Is it wood, tile, brick?????
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wrote:

I won't know all the details till I get to her house.
Since she already bought it, I would venture to say that I will mount it similar to mounting a shelf to a wall.
The brick wall is the same as you would find in the exterior of a house.
Maybe I should drill into the brick proper and not into the mortar, and then insert the anchor bolts to give it additional strength.
Andy
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I'd use the regular lead inserts into the mortar. Use more for the mantle if it's really that heavy. I would not drill into the brick because if anyone's plans ever change it is a lot easier to repair the holes in the mortar.
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Excellent point.
Andy
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On 11/23/2010 9:36 PM, Andy wrote:

What is behind the brick? Is it a modern house with a brick veneer over a studded wall, or is it old-school, and the interior of the fireplace is the same stack of brick you see from outside? A good clue is if the firebox is metal, even metal with a thin layer of firebrick, and especially if (like on my 1978 fireplace, and most recent fireplaces), the frigging chimney stack is wood.
Not sure what would work on veneer, maybe lag bolts all the way into the studs. Unless I knew there were tie straps holding the brick veneer solidly to the wall, I'd be reluctant to put a lot of lateral load on what is basically a stack of bricks. If a traditional fireplace, a DEEP hole (at least 1/3 as deep as the part sticking out), and rebar epoxied into the hole, and allowed to cure before pushing the mantel over it. Back in stone age, my father got them to pick the mantel before fireplace was laid, and his mason spotted rebar J-hooks into the structure. This was mainly 'rustic' mantels back then, not the Norm Abrams fussy cabinetry style ones. Those old barn beam sections were not light.
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The OP only mentioned brick behind the cue stick holder, he/she didn't say anything about the wall around and above the fireplace. That's why I asked what it was made of. Waiting for the OP to reply-------------
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If a traditional fireplace, a DEEP

Rather than rebar, epoxy some stainless steel or even zinc plated threaded rod into a hole in the brick. The threads should offer a lot of surface area for bonding and no nasty mill scale to weaken the bond. Drilling into mortar as mentioned above is poor practice at best due the difference in strength of the materials, i.e., the support is dependent on the bond of the mortar to the brick, an iffy situation. Another alternative I have used for mounting electrical service panels was drilling relatively good sized holes for an oak dowels and epoxying those in place for the mounting screws. The electrical inspector seemed to like that approach a lot. On one job we mounted a painted plywood panel to the old brick foundation wall first with epoxied in dowels and the service panel was then installed. Some combination of these techniques should produce a very stout mounting for the mantle.
Joe
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Based on mounting heavy ornamental wrought iron burglar bars, I would have to disagree about drilling into the mortar.
I visited my "handy work" several years later, and they are still hanging fine.
To use a modified quote from Star Wars,
"Those Cobra wall anchors were impressive."
Andy
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