unwanted guest

[Sam O'Nella]

There shall be only 3 periods in an ellipsus.

[Matt]

Oh Shit, you're right. Damn.

[Sam O'Nella]

gross, dude. The chick's got kids!

[m Ransley]

Kathy you said he gave you a letter and on another post you say you never recieved it ?? Yes.

You say there is no paper trail but he gave you a money order and you indicate you will deny it ?? Yes,, Did you give him a reciept, I dont think so because you said he tried to" Creat a paper trail". What BS .

What work was not done or disagreed on.

You say he is to pay his share of electricity, so how do you determine" His Share ", do you guess? Do you compare last years usage, not cost and add the difference? What is his % cost of your bill. Does he heat with electric space heaters and have a big frige or do you supply the heat and an energy efficient frige. A 1500 watt electric space heater would cost me near 150 a month at my rates run 24x7 .So what is his charge you figure is fair, 30$ a month? or 200$ a month. Im seeing a side to your story a judge will not like, you hiding a letter and proof of payment. Id like to hear his side also. There is more to this story then we are presently told.

[xrongor]

one hell of a fishing pole too...

randy

[m Ransley]

He has been there less than 3 months yes, in a little apt above the garage. He paid 500 you said in utilities and indicate it is not a full payment. Gee 500$ for less than 3 months. So what is the cost 600-800? Even 500 sounds a bit suspicious So how do you calculate it.

[indago]

050126 0910 - Kathy posted:

Call the police and have him arrested for disturbing the peace; and keep doing it regularly.

[Matt]

Run up to him and scream: PLONK!

[Art]

Give him notice of a rent increase.

[Duane Bozarth]

Since he's not paying now, I'm that'll do it.... :)

[willshak]

On 1/26/2005 5:37 PM US(ET), Art took fingers to keys, and typed the following:

It seems like a total rent of $0.01 per month would be an increase, and this is a friend of her daughter, too. Doesn't say much for her daughter's choice of friends. I think she has more of a problem than a squatter.

[Colbyt]

Kathy,

You did not tell us the complete story the first time!

You have a landlord-tenant relationship with this person based on the payment of money for housing. The courts will consider the utility excuse just that in the absence of a written agreement. You will need to follow your local laws. If you don't you could wind up owing this joker some serious money. Treble damages and more are a common remedy for abusive landlords.

If you don't want to go the preferred attorney route, you can call your local court clerks office and find out what the process for legal eviction is. Then you must follow those steps EXACTLY. Here, one is required to serve a written notice demanding payment of the past due rent and wait the prescribed number of days before taking any more action. Your court clerk can, and will if act nice, give you fill in the blank forms that you can use for the entire process. Here if you do everything in a timely matter it takes about 30 days for the entire process. In the more Liberal states in can take up to 6 months. Hope you aren't in Boston.

BTW, you have left a "paper" trail by posting here so I would strongly encourage you to follow the legal procedures for your locality.

Colbyt

[Colbyt]

Yep!

The innkeepers of America have a more powerful lobby than the Landlords do.

Defrauding an innkeeper is a crime in all the states I have been in. Defrauding a landlord is a tenant's right!

Here if you buy something at a store and write a bad check over $100 it is a felony. The DA collects the money and prosecutes the case for the store. Pay your landlord with a bad check and it is not even a crime. You can only evict the sucker.

Here if you drive off from the gas station without paying you can lose your license and serve time. Move out without paying your landlord. That's your right. He can sue you if he can find you. Sue a hundred of them you might collect on one of them when they want to buy a car someday.

Colbyt

[Suzie-Q]

-> I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He

-> moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with

-> his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room

-> provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities went.

-> Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm

-> crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the f*ck

-> can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should

-> have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband

-> and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody

-> give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid he's

-> going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged

-> friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he was

-> sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him

-> to leave.

You'll get some great advice if you post this question to misc.legal.moderated.

[DJ]

Sounds like you need to find him a roommate, preferably a large, ugly, scary, gay outlaw biker dude...

DJ

[m Ransley]

Yes, well a couple of things you guys overlooked.

She admits recieving a letter and then says she did not recieve it.

She recieved 500 for 3 month utilities and has fraudulently tried to destroy the payment connection to the family by having a friend cash the money order. GUILTY of IRS income fraud and , FRAUD on the TENNANT by hiding his payment. Now that only a Scum Bag would do...

[Kathy]

My husband decide we are just going to adopt the little bastard and treat him like one of our own. Nag him about taking the trash out and having too many friends over. Let him know we know he is lying. Insist he share at least one meal a week with us (like he just about) did before he moved into the room. Encourage him to find work in his field instead of "just a job". My husband sees worth in this child and wants to give him a chance to redeem himself and learn about real life. Our own son is turning out well because of my husbands peristance so I guess I'm going to get with the program and give the kid another chance or five.

But I _swear_ I'm NOT buying him a car.

[Tom]

Kathy wrote:> I'm

Being a landlord myself, here's one of Arizona's legal takes on this matter. If the Landlord is aware that the Tenant is using illegal drugs, and takes no proper legal action, said Landlord can be prosecuted, right alongside the offending Tenant! Get a writ of restitution from a judge. There'll be some papers to be served, preferably by a professional. You'd be surprised how quick they (the judge) are to help you evict the miscreant. Tom Work at your leisure!

[m Ransley]

But you gotta buy him a motorbike to get around.

[Clark Griswold]

WHAT??????