The washers I've had don't dry, they just wash. And the front loader
took a lot longer, maybe 50% to 100% longer for a complete wash
than the 15 year old top loader. But that's an old top-loader, vs new
front. I did a test using white towels and some stains, kethup,
mustard, grass, etc. I'd say they both did about the same. One
was better at removing certain stains than the other, but overall
not much difference. It was an old Kenmore vs new top of the line
LG. One thing is amazing and that's how little water the LG uses.
Here are my observations from a new and old set of GE
Old was GE 3.7 cu top loader washer and 5 cu foot electric dryer,
Average wash time for a full cotton load ( about 3-3.3 cu ft of
clothing) was 35 minutes, using 47-50 gallons of water. Electric dry
time for load was about 45 to 50 minutes. This washer and dryer set was
New Front load washer is 4 cu ft and new dryer is 7 cu ft GAS, 18 000
BTU purchased 2009
Front load uses 14-17 gallons of water per wash load for about 3 to 3.5
cu ft load. Average wash time is 58mins to 105 minutes. Average
electrical use is .17kwhr per load.
Gas dryer dries 3 cu foot load in about 35-40 minutes and a full 6.5 to
7 cu ft load in bout 55 minutes. Electrical use from gas dryer is .21
to .25 kwhr for small load of drying and .34 kwhr to as high as .4 kwhr
for the capacity load.
Water use is measured from the water softener. It has a little LCD
display that gives water use stats. We use cold water only and for the
once a season warm water use we have gas water heater and the washing
machine has a water heater internally that is 1100 watts but we've never
used it. Washing machin is rated for 9 amps and I've never seen it use
Electrical use measurement is from a kill-a-watt meter. Easy to measure
gas cause it's 110v. Gas dryer uses mostly 400 watts to turn the drum,
and the ignition uses additional 400 watts to fire the burners. Gas
dryer rated for 6 amps, and it uses it. We found it alot more efficient
to run the dryer with two loads of washing to dry instead of a smaller
Those are my numbers and what I have recorded a few months ago when I
got a kill-a-watt meter as a gift.
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:32:57 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown
I can't say anything about front loaders, but some top-loaders can
have very high spin rates. I have one, a GE. with an "extra spin"
The knob has been set to that from day one.
And it spins like crazy.
So if you ever find your statistics, make sure you're not comparing
apples and oranges.
We have a fairly new Maytag top loader. It uses much less water than
the old GE it replaced, seems to spin dry at a higher rate and is much
smoother. I did not want a front loader, figuring that eventually there
would be a gasket problem. The top loaders have improved too to use
We replaced an (very) old GE top w/ a new one. It also has a very high
spin cycle rpm (800 rpm iirc) and altho I figured it would be very
unstable and noisy it has proven to be quite a lot quieter and less of a
balance problem than the old one was.
It does get quite a bit dryer owing to that spin than the old but I've
made no attempt to compare drying times--it's just what it is imo (altho
use outside line quite a bit as well).
Yes. It would be hard to make a comparison. My front loader has a button
for extended spin. And then I have a choice of five spin speeds, plus no
spin. I max it out to minimize my drying time.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Our front loader, now 9 years old, senses the load before it decides on a
spin speed. I suppose that's to avoid damage to the machine. Anyway, the
clothes come out fairly dry most of the time; but sometimes lage loads with
heavy fabrics are not well wrung out. I usually remove the driest part of
the load and then have it spin again. Compared to the previous top loaders
that we've had, the front loader is faster, quieter, uses much less water
and detergent and overall does a better cleaning job.
I can fill my front loader to the top with stuff like shirts, socks
and a towel or two without any problem.
However, if I stuff it full of towels and/or blankets, it won't spin
fast enough to even get the water out of the tub. I'll agree that the
machine is protecting itself by not spinning the really heavy, water
My daughter came home from college last week and loaded up the machine
with a bunch of her towels and blankets. An hour later she sent me a
text, panicked that she had broken the washer since everything was
still really wet when the cycle was finished.
I had her take out half the load, set the machine on Drain and Spin,
and it cranked right up to 1100 RPM.
She deaf mute? My generation, we talked to each
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My daughter came home from college last week
and loaded up the machine with a bunch of her
towels and blankets. An hour later she sent me a
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:05:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
I wonder if that's what's going on with my sisters Whirlpool. When we
visit and use it what we consider a normal load that we would put in
our top loader comes out very damp in her front loader. Next time we
are there I'll have to try spin it in two separate batches.
We have a four year old Whirlpool Cabrio, agitatorless top-loader, with a
high-speed spin cycle. We bought it in hopes it would be more reliable than a
similarly priced front-loader. It didn't work out so well. It's bearings are
just about shot, too. Not recommended.
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:16:13 -0400, " email@example.com"
It's a PITA. I got the GE at Sears because our 25-year old Kenmore
broke down. None of the washing machines - anywhere - had good
reviews, and this one had even worse reviews than most.
But SHMBO had to have the large capacity, soak cycle, and SS tub.
I paid about $250 just for 5-year replace warranty.
Too many reviews about owners going weeks before it was fixed.
I just added up the total yearly cost for 5 years, thought about how
much fun it is to go to the laundrymat, and paid up.
No trouble with it, but the 5 years is up in a couple months.
Pretty sure it's been good because I paid for the warranty.
Those 25 year Kenmores are long gone. Last Kenmore refrigerator I
bought died in 8 years. Marked inside as Whirlpool, Made in Mexico.
By the time enough bad reviews show up for these appliances, they
often discontinue the model and put out another crap model.
Mine isn't sold any more.
Since the original topic has been almost totally hijacked, I'll now
chime in on my GE front loader. As far a spinning out the water, when
it works, it's great. Clothes are almost dry. However, on heavy loads,
the spin/dryness, is inconsistent. Sometimes they seem pretty dry.
Other times, very wet. That said, the 3 year old is being replaced. I
am getting a top loader with a real agitator, a tub that really fills up
with water and one that really rinses the clothes. Right now, we wash a
load with the extra rinse button pressed. Then, after it's done, we
select "speed wash" with an extra rinse, but this time adding no soap.
This usually gets all the soap out, but even with all that, sometimes
not. What a piece of junk! It can take 2 hours to do a load. And, if
it's a heavy blanket, etc., it will usually get unbalanced during spin.
If you try to reposition the load, it's almost impossible because of
the wet weight. So, you let the machine go through it's back and forth
motion, trying to reposition the load. After some time, it will usually
be able to spin out. But that can add another half an hour to the
cycle. And, don't get me started on tangling. Pant legs of thinner
material and sleeves, twist up in tight knots .................. Go
take blood pressure meds now!!!!
I'll just comment again that we've had a GE top for about 2 yr now--so
far, it has been quite satisfactory--but I have no illusions it'll last
20+ yr as the old one did doing heavy overalls and other farm clothing
for that lifetime. At age where beginning to slow down so and not as
much farm production as before so it doesn't get the workout it did so
that'll compensate some...
But, initially have to admit to being pleasantly surprised...it works
well, is quiet, handles heavy loads w/o complaint and "just works".
Don't recall exact model; wasn't cheapest but far from the
highest-priced. Does _not_ have any optional high-speed spin control
(that I'm aware of anyway). Different wash/rinse cycles but afaik it
spins at 800 rpm, just different lengths of time depending on cycle. It
does have a bunch of beeps almost as annoying as C-3PO... :) Otherwise
I'd have pulled the wires on the buzzer/beeper.
I always do the extra rinse. I've never had any problem whatsoever. But
then I have always used only HE detergent and I only fill the cap to the 1
or 2 line.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
It is *much* worse on the front loader. So much so that we'll
never own another front loader. You can pull things tot he edge
of a top loader & sort, untangle, etc. Once you grab a bunch in
the front loader it leaves a trail of socks to the dryer-- or is
hanging on to a couple tangle sleeves still in the washer.
I think Molly was talking about the guy who comes to fix the damn
things when they break.
Back to the OP-- my gut says my front loader spins clothes out about
as well as the top loader did when the belt was freshly tensioned.
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