Today's favorite quote from the USA Today

(Talking about pulling the gun stats from Mass Shooting Tracker) "That definition of four or more shot rarely translate into four or more killed. One-third of these 'mass shootings' result in no fatalities and only 5% are mass killings. However, this scary one-a-day statistic is rolled out whenever there is a large-scale mass killing, allowing unsophisticated readers to make the wrong connection." James Allan Fox, Prof of Criminology, Law and Public Policy at Northwestern University.
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wrote:

This is from Mark Perry of The American Enterprise Institute: http://tinyurl.com/h5m6wxj There's a chart showing the increase of gun ownership and decline of gun related deaths in the last 20 years. The gun homicide rate has fallen almost 50% in that period.
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On 12/5/15 7:28 AM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:

ISTM just because someone failed to die from being shot (or shot at) does not lessen the severity of mass shootings. The intent was there on the part of the perpetrator to kill.
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But when a drug deal is part of the count, it is very misleading. When someone is injured when running away from a one on one shooting, it adds to the statistics. Very misleading. Intentionally misleading, of course.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427985/media-mass-shootings-count-misleading
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2015 11:13:41 -0800, "taxed and spent"

I think it's important to realize this, but it's also important to know if and how much mass shooting are increasing, whether people are killed or not.
Life is complicated. It's similar to needing to remember that if a carpet store is advertising n dollars a yard, but they insist on measuring your house so that you need 1.5 times as many yards as the other company does, you're not getting such a good deal.

Right

It's got to be really rare that more than 1 or 2 people are shot at a drug deal. People don't come in crowds to drug deals. There is one dealer and one buyer. And they dont' do it in the middle of an unknowing crowd. But given all that, if one starts shooting and puts a bullet in 4 or more people, the incident should be counted.

If there was a one-on-one shooting and someone is injured (do you mean shot?) by running away, then at most 3 people have been shot. Under 4.

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why don't you read the article I provided the link to?
"And, in fact, gang-related shootings, crimes that occasion gunfire, disputes among families and friends that turn explosive - these account for the vast majority of "mass" gun violence in the United States. The Congressional Research Service reports that, of the average of 21 mass shootings (their definition) annually between 1991 and 2013, "familicides" and shootings "attributable to an underlying criminal activity or commonplace circumstance" were both almost twice as common as "mass public shootings" of the sort that more commonly arrest the public eye."

no, I mean injured, not shot.
" There are obvious problems, one identified by the FBI in a 2014 report on active-shooter situations, which couches its own statistics by noting: A handful of those identified as "wounded" were not injured by gunfire but rather suffered injuries incidental to the event, such as being hit by flying objects/shattered glass or falling while running."

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or try this story http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/04/washington-post-gun-violence-declining-except-gun-free-zones/
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