The year we lose our TV signals

[Michael B]

[hallerb]

99.125.85.9:

get real bush was all smoke and mirrors, brownie is doing a excellent job.

the city is still a wreck, perhaps it should be abandoned.

you are part of the 20% of the population still supporting the worst president our country ever had

[hallerb]

you may not be happy when the war spreads to a regional one, and sends crude oil price back up and gasoline is 6 bucks a gallon.

the area is destabilized and primed to blow

[Michael B]

When I lived in the country, my wife wanted to get PBS (Dr. Who). So I found an old 10ft satellite dish, installed it in a lot of concrete, removed the LNA, and put a UHF bowtie at the focal point, ran coax to the house. We were able to get a suitable picture at three times further than their deep fringe area. In fact, we called them for a pledge drive and they held up three fingers to check to see if we were really getting the picture. We also had antennas hanging with yarn in our rafters. Sure beat having to fix them after a lot of weather exposure. When you live in a rural area, you do what you need to do.

[Ed Pawlowski]

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So, if you don't like someone, stoop as low as you can to get even. That sort of thing tend to come back to haunt you.

[The Henchman]

you may not be happy when the war spreads to a regional one, and sends crude oil price back up and gasoline is 6 bucks a gallon.

the area is destabilized and primed to blow

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Personally when Oil was 140 a barrell I was worth alot more money than I am now. I'm not saying I want oil to head higher again, but when it was really high I was wealthier, at least on paper.

[The Henchman]

you may not be happy when the war spreads to a regional one, and sends crude oil price back up and gasoline is 6 bucks a gallon.

the area is destabilized and primed to blow

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And I should mention that I don't own a single oil stock or drilling stock etc etc. My investments involve little of the energy sector, but when oil was worth alot of money, the stock market was worth alot too. Expensive gasoline is no boogeyman to me.

[Ralph Mowery]

"The Henchman" > American leader is in office...

I cold buy a lot of gas for the $ 100,000 I have lost in my 401K and some other stock. That is not counting the other 20 to 40 K that I should have made in the last year or so that the stock has been dropping instead of making money.

[Jim Yanik]

aemeijers wrote in news:KTT7l.253976$ [e-mail]:

no reason you can't mount the dish on a pad on the ground where you have a clear line of sight.Bury the coax in a shallow trench. Or just pound a post into the ground;that is what some of the tenants in my apt.complex do,because they aren't allowed to attach directly to the building,just on their patios.

[Jim Yanik]

"The Henchman" when that new American leader is in office...

When Israel isn't being rocketed,mortared or homicide-bombed,they are very peaceful.Wheh Israel withdrew from Gaza,they were "rewarded" with rocket,mortar attacks on nearby cities. They HAD to blockade Gaza to keep Hamas from bringing in more rockets and bombs. After all,Hamas IS in a state-of-war with Israel.Blockades are legit during wartime.And yet Israel STILL supplies electricity and other humanitarian aid to Gaza.(and gets more rockets in return...)

Let's hope Obama doesn't sell out Israel.

[Jim Yanik]

"The Henchman" > when that new American leader is in office...

The area NEVER WAS "stabilized".

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Very cool.

[Ann]

Agree and disagree. Even the proponents of digital transmission acknowledged from the get-go that those already using an outdoor antenna to get fringe VHS stations would be unlikely to get usable digital reception. Also, stations aren't required to broadcast digital at the same level as they did analog. I've forgotten the exact number, but something like 15% aren't going to.

Otoh, there are a few stations that applied for and were granted exemptions from doing a digital broadcasting trial. One of the two stations I'll still be able to get falls in that category. Considering that it appear to be in borderline financial condition, I'm not expecting them to make the changeover date.

[Robert]

TRUE, and most people do not know that the first cars, like the model T Ford, got around 3mph. Even the heavy large cars in the 1950's were not too bad on milage. Now we got all these luxury items in cars that just suck the gas milage. Then they add all the polution controls, and more milage is lost. I do agree with clean air, but not if the process causes more gas waste. I always wondered about the facts they claim. Fo example, if a car emits 1000ppm of pollution for each gallon of gas, but only gets 10 miles to the gallon, then a car that emits 1500ppm pollution, but gets 20mpg, is less polluting. Of course they dotn tell us this stuff.

And constantly replacing tvs, computers, phones, dvd players, etc also requires a lot of energy to manufacture new ones. For example, why must people keep buying entire new computers, rather than just change the CPU to upgrade? Of course we all know it's because the manufacturers do not make the motherboards upgradable, and then every few years they change the whole case and power supply. Like from AT to ATX, etc. Of course WE as homeowners are constantly told to conserve energy. So we buy a new refrigerator or computer which will save $20 worth of energy per year, but how much energy is used to manufacture that new item? It's not really about saving energy, it's about making sales for these companies. As always, we as consumers are being lied to.

Robert

[Ann]

Imo, most people buy new computers for the convenience of it. They don't cost that much, perform better, are more energy efficient, usually have a new OS, and are ready to use. (Yes, I know that if the new OS is Vista, that may not be a "good thing".) If one is DIY inclined, one can use the existing case/PS, hard drive, and peripherals - and get a mobo, dual-core cpu, and memory for less than $200.

[Jim Elbrecht]

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I'll bite. I like 60 minutes. Can you give me 2 examples of each & I promise I'll reconsider watching it. [except for Andy Rooney- his is an opinion piece so he can say anything he damn well pleases. And besides he's an excellent woodworker and WWII war correspondent]

Jim

[trader4]

The point here is that there WERE justifications. For example, Sadam only started partial cooperation with the UN weapons inspectors after

200,000 troops were stages and ready to invade. Even then, Hans Blix, in his final report, made it clear that Iraq was STILL NOT FULLY COOPERATING. So, sure, in post 911, it's not entirely unexpected for a president to tend to worry about what is really going on, what will happen when the troops are brought back and the shell game continues. And to take any intelligence in the most sinister view. Sadam sure acted like a guy hiding some secret WMD programs.

As I said before, what would have happened had Sadam had WMDs and later some of them were used? The libs would be demanding his impeachement, because there was adequate reason to act (see above), yet Bush did nothing. 20-20 hindsight is convenient, ain't it?

You can argue whether the justifications were sufficient to go to war. I don't know what I would have done, presented with the same intelligence and world scenario. But my main point here is that making a tough decsion with what info you had in the post 911 timeframe is very different than lying about going to war. If Bush was lying, I'd like to hear from hallerb, what exactly it was that Bill and Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Peolosi, Biden and many other Democrats who were relying on the same intelligence and making very similar statements about Iraq were doing. How is it they get a pass, while Bush is supposed to be a liar?

A baseless charge.

They come up with such gems as

Funny thing, after the invasion they didn't find WMDs. But they did find plenty of yellow cake uranium. So for all we know, it could very will indeed have come from Niger. No one every said for sure it didn't. Joe Wilson only said he couldn't confirm that it came from Niger. You really expect it to be that easy to confirm? Like he just goes over there and asks and gets an answer? So, after Sadam is removed it's found that Iraq did indeed have a HUGE STOCKPILE OF YELLOWCAKE URANIUM, and you want to bitch about whether intelligence was right about where it came from? You want a frigging receipt and pictures of it being shipped too?

Secret U.S. mission hauls uranium from Iraq Last major stockpile from Saddam's nuclear efforts arrives in Canada updated 6:57 p.m. ET, Sat., July. 5, 2008

"The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program =97 a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium =97 reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" =97 the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment =97 was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."

George Tenet had to decide

Funny how those in Congress aren't accused of anything. Hallerb, are your there? Only Bush is supposed to be a liar. Actually, I think enough of them did look at intelligence that if they didn't like it, they had plenty of opportunity to spread the word and make their case. In fact, instead the majority voted to go to war.

Yep, he sure did.

Apparently you are interested in discussing it, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this, would you?

[hallerb]

saddam was exactly what that part of the world needed. brutal dictator who also happened to act as control rods for iran.

his claim of WMDs made perfect military sense it kept iran at bay.

when historians look back, if anyone is able to look back, bush will be resonsible for the coming world war begining in the mid east.

heck bush even managed to restart the cold war with russia

few presidents restart cold war, preside over a economic dump nearly as large as the great depression, go to war unnecessarily, plus dramatically erode our constitution, all in 8 years.

[George]

Naw, he would be applauded for trying to be honest. Acting only in the interest of some select friends is just plain wrong.

[hallerb]

yeah his oil buddies and military industrilal complex all made big bucks.

bush took good care of his buddies, at the cost of a bunch of american lives.

worse busg discredited our nationa.

others hate our country over things like GITMO, they look at our country as the neighborhood bully