The right side of my breaker panel is warm to the touch.

[The Daring Dufas]

If the panel cover was hot enough to burn your hand, that would indicate a real problem. It must be fairly new to have arc fault circuit breakers installed, a type breaker which trips when an electrical arc is detected in any circuit connected to the breaker.

If you're really worried call your electric company to find out if a tech for them would come out and check the temp of the panel at no cost to you. The power company here is really good about that sort of thing and the fire department (don't dial 911) may have a fire marshal willing to drop by and assuage your fears after checking the temp of the panel. The ones I know would rather find out that a citizen has a problem that needs fixing rather than meeting him outside his burning house. If it really has you worried, there are electrical installation and repair companies that will send someone by to check it for you at no cost as a way to get you as a customer. The honest service companies are out there, ask around to find someone who will check it for you. Your peace of mind will let you sleep at night. Be safe. ^_^

TDD

[catbyte]

Thank you for your help Robert!

[catbyte]

Thank you for your further help Daring Dufas!

[bud--]

I agree that is probably why the breakers are "warm".

[Robert Green]

Isn't it sad? SM could have just politely answered the question but instead took an unwarranted jab at our new guest. Why? All because *SM* doesn't like Homeowner's Hub. Who cares *what* you like, Stormie? Worse, still he constantly reminds us how polite "his kind" is in post after post and how rude everyone else is while being nasty to a newcomer for no reason.

Matthew 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

It means "actions speak louder that words." It means that no matter how much SM carps about how civilized his friends are, it's the ACT of slapping a new guest in the face twice that tells us who he really is, not his claims of piety. SM seems to have taken pride in both ignoring Catbyte's question AND insinuating that Catbyte has no right to be here unless they came via Usenet and a newsreader program. That tells us the kind of man he really is. A real man might realize he should apologize for such a poor welcome to a stranger. It also suggests he's obsessed with trying to tell others what do to, a noticeable problem with a lot of religious people.

Catbyte doesn't care about SM's hard-on for HH. The question was good and germane to the AFCI upgrading that many people are doing. The answer might help and number of Google searches in the future. Catbyte ended up basically solving the problem for themselves by noting they were AFCI breakers. But Stormie's got to bitch, bitch, bitch: "Oh, you're not doing it right!! Go away and come back after you do what *I* told you to do, invader!!!" Typical actions of a serious control freak and someone not quite properly socialized.

(Catbyte, if you're reading this, come back and visit through any portal you like. We'll keep the self-appointed captain of the neighborhood Portal Police at bay. Sorry you had to read about any infighting but this has been an ongoing problem of bad manners exhibited, ironically, by someone who constantly brags about how polite he is.)

[catbyte]

Your kind support and articulate defense are much appreciated. Many thanks!! Catbyte

[catbyte]

Thank you for all the info!

[catbyte]

Thank you for your input!

[catnip]

Thank you for the info!

[catnip]

Thank you for your help!

[catnip]

Thank you for your help!

[Robert Green]

You're very welcome. You actually answered your own question when you noticed they were all AFCI breakers. The answer to this question also made me realize that an AFCI breaker "stuffed" circuit panel might attract more bugs and other vermin than a normal panel because it's mostly sealed up and warm in such areas. The last mouse we had lived in the basement near the water heater and traveled from there all the way to the kitchen and back stockpiling all sort of kitchen detritus in the nest. No mice since we got a little dog, though!

[lanicordovais]

Thank you for clarifying the wrongdoings of SM. I found this thread on a go ogle search, it was very helpful, and I appreciate the civil replies. I am Mormon and all I can say is that SM is likely either trying to give Mormons a bad name, or is not living by the precepts of his stated religion. I kno w no one is perfect, but one should not wear his religion on his sleeve unl ess he is going to try to live it just as publicly. I am sorry for his disc ourteous behavior and I just want you to know that not all mormons are of " his kind".

[trader_4]

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 4:19:26 PM UTC-4, [e-mail] wro te:

google search, it was very helpful, and I appreciate the civil replies. I a m Mormon and all I can say is that SM is likely either trying to give Mormo ns a bad name, or is not living by the precepts of his stated religion. I k now no one is perfect, but one should not wear his religion on his sleeve u nless he is going to try to live it just as publicly. I am sorry for his di scourteous behavior and I just want you to know that not all mormons are of "his kind".

Thank you for reviving a dead thread on AHR from 14 years ago, replying as if these posts were made yesterday and not quoting anything so we can even follow whatever it is that you're bitching about. And no need to worry about Stormin, he won't be bothering you anymore, he passed away recently.

This is another excellent example of the value added by posters digging up ancient threads. Now we're getting ones that don't even touch on the original subject, but instead the alleged personal wrongs of posters wh o are dead.

[hubops]

Speak kindly of the dead < ? > ... or not ... this IS usenet after all. May all the graven idols unite in casting their blessings - and their universal encouragement - for diversity .. .. we are stronger together. .. except for those you-know-who reprobates. John T.