In article , snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net says... :) :) > :) :) > If it was a newer subdivision, it was probably talking about pre treats, :) > where all the soil is treated before the slab is poured. All too often :) > the builders will go with the cheapest price that can be 6-10 cents a :) > square foot and to cover the cost of material a company would have to :) > charge around 15 cents (if applied properly). With the older :) > termiticides a continuous barrier would be needed, since they were :) > basically a chemical shield...any break would allow entry, even push the :) > termites to the break and needed much drilling in the concrete, but with :) > the way the newer products work (termidor and Phantom) a continuous :) :) Why aren't these miracles better known? Are there published studies :) about them? Published studies? LOL just ask ANY company across the country what they feel is the best product out there. Termidor is the only product on the market to be 100% in the US Forestry testing for over 10 years. An easy way to find an answer about termidor is to google Pest control, then what ever company that pops up, email them the question what is the best termiticide on the market. Even the companies, that make their money off of baits usually will do a minimal treatment with Termidor, meaning there probably is no real reason to pay the costs of bait systems. :) > barriers isn't needed to get complete control, the colony is attacked :) > rather than just keeping them at bay. And less labor can result in less :) > job cost to the customer and I have yet to have a retreat needed on any :) > home I've treated with Termidor. :) :) If I paid for term. prevention and it didn't work, I'd be inclined not :) to call you back. A "barrier" poured around the foundation just doesn't :) sound like a sure thing - rain washes away?, folks dig and plant stuff, :) etc. Why would termites not go below the barrier? There are many variables why a pretreat didn't work...after treatment more work was done to the pad unknown the the treating company thus disturbing the barrier..foundation work was done which may remove treated soil from around the structure..etc. the reason you may call the original treating company would be it probably is a no cost service compared to hundreds of dollars for a new company to put it on contract. Termiticides are required to "bond" to the soil and not leach away when they are applied up to several feet deep rather than just spraying the product about It's one of the characteristic from regular insecticides. For a product to be labeled a termiticide it has to show 100% effectiveness for 5 years in field studies by the US Forestry dept and that means it can not "wash" away. Landscaping can effect the termite barrier, but more so with the older products. The newer products such as termidor and Phantom are not recognised by the foraging termites, so by the nature of the termite they will find the product even if there is not a continual barrier. The older products only were a shield, so that a break meant guaranteed re infestation down the road. For what it's worth, since the five years Termidor has been on the market I have yet to have a call back on any home I have treated, "full" or preventative. Another way to gauge it's effectiveness. It was the first product to have a 5 year guarantee from the makers on retreats..two years later the other two major products have adopted that warranty. Termidor makers now offers a 10 year guarantee for their product.