I just bought new washer. Delivery man couldn't get hoses off. I have read on
here to use liquid wrench etc. I want to know how to apply it. My husband is
out of state and I am trying to help myself before calling plumber.. are there
any videos to watch? Thanks
On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 5:54:01 PM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:
Just recently with hoses and valves on for over 20 years I had no choice to replace the valves hoses and lots of other stuff.
If the new washer is going anywhere that a flood could damage stuff the OP might be far better off calling a plumber.
My stuff was like welded together after all those years...
In fact I ended up cutting hoses off with a sawzall, cutting a coulple vlves off, and taking the frozen togeter parts to a buddy with a commercial vise.
boy was he surprised he couldnt get them apart either.... he was stunned
Couldn't get the hoses off the water faucets?
Or couldn't get them off the old washing machine?
Based on the subject line -- one should never put important information
only in the subject line, where it may be ignored. -- I guess you mean
So why not take them off the old washing machine and put them back on
the new washing machine? Change the rubber washer in the hose end
first. They sell them separately in the garden department.
Why not call your husband?
Are both hoses stuck on?
Liquid wrench might help, but it might make it worse if someone is gonig
to to use a torch later**. I would use longer pliers, Waterpump
pliers, also called Channel-loc(k) pliers, maybe 10 or 12 inches long,
but you'll have a tremendous grip with them and you don't want to
squeeze so hard you crack the faucet, just enough that the pliers hold
very firmly to the hose end. Once you have a good grip, start moving
your hand in an orbit around the hose end, so that you're unscrewing it.
Make sure you're going in the right direction, and arne't confused
because, for example, the faucet points down and you're looking at it
from above. OTOH, Bob H.'s story shows that you might not be able to
get it at all.
**If I were bound and determined to take the hoses off the faucets, I
think I'd heat the metal faucet with a propane or MAPP torch, and let
the heat reach to the part of the hose that is screwed on to the faucet.
Unless you've used a torch before and know how hot they are and how much
heat the metal absorbs, I don't think you want to do that yourself.
GO TO A LAUNDRAMAT UNTIL YOUR HUSBAND GETS HOME.
Would it be ok to leave the ones connected to the faucet on and just connect
them to the new washer? If it won't cause damage I can do that easily...the
ones that were connected to old washer came off easily. Just need to find out
what size ( if they come in sizes) to purchase! I was told new hoses had to be
put on....but that was probably to sell the hoses!!
On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:41:07 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
Not changing the supply hoses on an old washer when replacing it with a
new one is a real bad idea. Especially if they're just the typical rubber
And before starting to use channel locks on the spigot ends or probably
even before taking off the hoses, I'd make sure where the main supply
valve for the house is located, that it can shut off the water if need be,
just in case.
You should replace the hoses but if all you can do now is put the old
hoses on the new machine, it wont harm anything. Those old hoses could
last years, but it's still best to replace them. If you want to do
laundry now, just swap the old hoses. You might need new hose washers
though (any hardware store has em).
When your husband gets home, have him use a pipe wrench on the old hoses
at the spigot. You can soak with WD40 at the top edge of he hose at the
spigot. If he cant do it that way. Cut off the rubber part of the old
hose, and use a propane torch to heat the connector. If that dont do
it, the spigots may need to be replaced. However I have never run into
a hose that cant be taken off with a good pipe wrench and last resort
As for hose size, just measure from spigots to hose connectors on washer
and get that size of the next longer. Of your old ones reach, just
measure them. The hose ends are all standard, it's just the length that
matters. When you buy new hoses, it's always nice to buy a red and blue
if they have them. Then you know which is hot (red). But some places
only sell black ones.
Thanks The ones I purchased with washer are red and blue. I sprayed some WD40
where the hose screws on but it (spigot) is in such a funny position it is hard
to get the spray can where i think it needs to go... it isnt down like a
regular faucet is. the hoses connect straight into the wall if you can picture
what i am trying to say. I think it would be easier using the smaller can of
oil i use when my sewing machine needs oil. Would that oil work just as well?
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 12:44:06 AM UTC-5, charlene wrote:
A penetrating, thin type oil is going to work better. Has anyone even
tried to get them off with a pair of channel locks? What did the delivery
guy do? I would think he would have suitable pliers, but then you never
On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 2:04:07 AM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I agree, it's OK to use them temporarily. But unless they are only a few
years old, they should be replaced. I'm betting they are plenty old, which
is why they won't come off. If they fail, the results can be catastophic,
depending on where the washer is located.
Oh, you got one of those special faucets made for laundry hoses, and the
hose ends are almost in a small box inside the wall. (Stupid design).
You may be able to get in there with plyers, or buy some curved tip
plyers (the tip is bent 90 degrees). I can see why the delivery guys
did not want to mess with it. THe best penetrating oil is called PB
Blaster. (better than WD40). Just soak the hose ends with either WD40
or buy some PB Blaster. Let it sit for a day and spray again.
I'd buy the PB Blaster and a bent plyers and go at it. Still cheaper
than calling a plumber. Especially if that spigot is in an finished
wall, which it sounds like it is. Some of that stuff can be a real
Obviously, you're not asking me. You're looking for confirmation of my
statement. Let me explain some more.
Rubber hoses get old and eventually burst. The guy at the hardware
store explained that to me the day after one of mine burst. (I heard
water running in the pipe when I woke up in the morning, before I had
used water or flushed the toilet. Went to the washing machine and
that's where it was spraying all over the floor.
But there is no particular reason the hoses have to be changed when you
buy a new washing machine. However it might be the policy of the
delivery company not to connect with the old hoses so they don't get
blamed if a hose bursts, even coincidentally, soon after they were
there. OTOH, if you don't change the hoses now, when will you, 15
years from now?
YOU ARE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO TURN OFF THE WATER, AFTER EVERY TIME YOU
FINISH USING THE MACHINE. Look in the owners manual of the machine and
it says that . It said that in the manual of your previous machine too.
Most poeple don't, but if they did, the hose would not burst when they
were asleep, at work, or out of town, because the water faucets woudl be
turned off then.
If you are not going to turn the water off every time you finish using
the machine, you should get steel clad hoses, that are covered in woven
stainless?? steel. The cover generally limits how much the hose
stretches when the valves in the machine suddenly turn the water off. I
believe those hoses will last a lot longer, but I'm told they will
spring leaks too (leaks under pressure, from the city water company, or
whatever pressure you see when you turn on a faucet.)
You know there are electrically controlled water valves in the washing
machine, because they are the reason when you set the water level for
medium, the water doesnt just keep filling and filling and filling until
it pours over the basket and on the floor. But when the electric
vavles snap shut, it puts extra pressure on the hose the valve is
connected to. This might also be true -- I'm not sure -- when you turn
off a sink or when a toilet valve shuts off the water after the toilet
One more thing. Have you heard of water hammer? It's probably in
wikipedia. It's the rattling and noise the water pipes sometimes make
when flowing water is stopped by closing a valve. When you have
all-rubber hoses, the hoses expand for a split second and take up the
shock of the water turning off. (My next door neighbor told me that
when he replaced the whole-house pressure regulator, and thus lowered
the water pressure from what the city provides, that got rid of his
My situation was the reverse When I got the steel-clad washing machine
hoses, the hoses were not able to expand when I or the toilet or the
washing machine suddently turned off the water, and I got water hammer.
I cured this by buying at a hardware store a "water hammer arrestor" or
something like that. It's a copper tube about 6" long with both garden
hose fittings at one end so it can be screwed on between the washing
machine hose and the washing machine. The tube is full of air,
separated from the water by a rubber diaphragm. The diaphragm moves
when the water is turned off and takes up the shock. Some day the
diaphragm will rupture and within a few weeks after that the air will be
absorbed by the water, and then the hammer will be back. But I've been
using one or two of them (cold, or cold and hot) for 20 years and
everything is fine so far.
So you may have to buy one or two of these things if you use the
steel-clad hoses, which you should definitely use even if you plan to
turn the water off every time you're not using the machine, because
you're bound to forget to do that sometimes. Or get tired of doing
Get yourself a spare address, or mung your real address, so I could have
emailed you a copy of this. Reply by post, please.
They only come in garden hose size. If you mean the length, they should
be long enough that you can pull the machine away from the wall and get
behind it to work on it while it's still connected. IOW, whatever
length is there now is probably fine.
It was to avoid liability in case your hoses sprang a leak soon after
his doing this. Assuming he was an employee and an agent of a company
selling washing machines, and not just an "ignorant"** delivery man
doing you a favor by connecting the hoses, It probably would have been
negligent for him not to tell you you should change the hoses, but some
people would deny they were told and that they told the delivery man to
use the old hoses anhow, and say instead he just negligently put on old
hoses. People like that have made it hard for the rest of us.
**Even if he gave no reason to think he knew about plumbing, some people
would still sue for damage caused by a coincidental leak.
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