strobe lights for attic to repel mice/squirrels

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:46:06 -0800 (PST), anjela snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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I just thought of this after reading about motion detectors and such.
CDHK (Canon Hack Developers Kit) is open source freeware that you put on a Canon point & shoot camera that will allow it to use motion detection to take a picture. I've been playing with it for a week or so & it boggles the mind how cool it is.
For your usage you'd need a Canon point & shoot that takes an ac adapter- and depending on the camera you might want a small light left on in the attic or the ability to manual focus. Set it to flash- and you'd probably scare off the intruder, but you'd also capture what it was and how 'scared' it was by the flashing light. [I'd put the camera in a cage in case a raccoon enters your attic. It wouldn't surprise me if a coon would be more curious than scared.]
The Wiki for CDHK is at http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK I'm old and not a complete geek so it took me a few days of reading before I put it on a card and tried it--- [keep life simple and use a 4gb card or smaller]-- my 22 yr old son skimmed the page, loaded it up and was shooting in 20 minutes.
Jim
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Thank you Jim. Yes, this is along the lines of what I am looking for, a device that is motion based and does something to repel these rodents.
only thing is I am wondering if there is a better device than a camera to repel these rodents.
I was googling and found that some folks are able to attach motion- sensors to things like lamps to make them go on and off.
Could I do the same and attach some kind of motion sensor that flashes a light on and off thus possibly repelling the animals?
I'm not particularly handy so appreciate any ideas anyone has on setting something up that is really easy or buying something on the market that does this.
I know there are motion sensor outdoor lights, but I need something portable and small that I can leave in the attic. Battery based is best.
Thank you all.

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On Jan 26, 4:46pm, anjela snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

Perhaps you could provide a list of materials which do not contain "chemicals of any kind"...?
Beyond burning a structure to ashes, nothing works other than eliminating the population or excluding them.
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responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/strobe-lights-for-attic-to-repel-mice-squirrels-355986-.htm Strobeman wrote: Anjela:
Strobe lights have a long history in pest control (starting in 1964) but are just recently (since the mid 90s) coming to the general publics attention.
As far as others results with strobe lights for squirrels ... www.rodentstrobe.com/dorodentstrobeswork.html
The strobe lights for squirrels effect the ciliary muscle (eye muscle that controls the expansion and contraction of the pupil) in the eye (causing considerable eye soreness for the pests) and also the saccadic eye movements (tracking movements made by the eyes) causes general disorientation in the pests and nausea. These effects are more cumulative (over time and repeated exposure) than immediate so the pests leave as the effects start to accumulate - usually within 24-48 hours. Please see Rodent Strobes How it Works section for more information and scientific documentation ... www.rodentstrobe.com .
The strobes have the same effect on human eyes - so exposure in a dark environment is not recommended. When the strobes are running there is pest protection - when not - no pest protection. Turning the strobes off is recommended before entering the application site.
Rodent Strobe recommends initially turning the strobes off for several hours at a time to allow the mother rats or squirrels to get their young out. Squirrels, rats, raccoons, etc. are good mothers and will instinctively evacuate their young from an environment they deem as unsuitable for their young.
Your question about the effectiveness of other humane methods ... Mothballs - it is illegal to use moth balls in an attic for squirrel or rat control because mothball vapors are heavier than air and will seep down into the lower living spaces. The vapors from moth balls are coal tar based and it is very similar to car engine exhaust in your house - moth balls for use in attics to get rid of squirrels is illegal and is toxic to humans(especially children and those with asthma) and pets.
Ultra-sonic repellents - the Federal Trade Commission(FTC) in 2001 sent warning letters to 60 manufacturers and retailers of ultra-sonic pest control devices telling them not to claim that their ultrasonic products repel pests. The FTC since 2001 has started prosecuting companies that produce these products and claim that they repel pests. Here is a link to the FTC website telling about the warning letters http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/05/fyi0128.shtm
Fox Urine / Predator Urine for squirrels: Most Academic/University Vertebrate Pest Specialists say these do not work and my pest problem experience confirms that. Besides, the main ingredient in most of these repellents is fox urine crystals (large quantities of fox urine boiled down and processed into crystals) - Have you ever wondered where all this fox urine is coming from? Are there fox port-a-potties located in the forests? The largest commercial producers of fox urine, coyote and wolf urine are large fur farms - can you imagine hundreds of foxes, each in a small cage, with trays underneath them to collect the marketable urine? - That does not bring the word humane to my mind - plus, I do not want my hard earned money possibly going to support the fur farm industry for something that the academic/university pest professionals say does not work anyway.
I had a problem with roof rats in my Scottsdale Arizona home for 7 years and tried everything - my Mother-in-law had a 10 year squirrel problem and the wire damage the squirrels did (squirrels and rats love to chew on attic wires causing an estimated 15,000+ residential fires each year) was extensive. I tried everything ... traps, bait stations, 4 pest control companies trapping and house sealing (my mother-in-law spent over $1,500.00 on trapping and house sealing and predator urine - and the squirrels just chewed their way back in in a couple of days) ... I even wasted my money on one of those ultrasonic things - nothing worked until I found out about strobe lights for squirrels and rat control. I solved my 7 year problem and my mother-in-laws 10 year problem. I now produce a line of industrial quality strobe lights for squirrels and rats which are built for continual use (10 year warranty on strobes internal electronics located in strobe housing) and are designed to withstand the harsh attic conditions and use only 4.8 watts of electricity (less than the average nightlight) and are so well heat insulated (internal electronics are potted/coated in polyurethane) that the the operating strobes give off very little heat discharge - not even warm to the touch. Rodent Strobe strobe lights for squirrels also have built in surge protection. Rodent Strobe strobe lights for squirrels and rats are custom produced to my specifications here in the USA by a leading electronics factory that also produces industrial strobes for the police and fire control industries.
Anjela - I hope this has been helpful to you and others - I and my wife know what it is like to have unsolvable pest problems and what a relief it can be to finally solve them.
Kind Regards, Kevin Peterson, President Rodent Strobe Inc. snipped-for-privacy@rodentstrobe.com
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What about Disco Rats? They just LOVE strobes.
http://ratcontrolreviews.com/squirrelevictor
Has a very interesting set of properties. Looks just like a real Amazon review page but isn't. Also activated my Firefox NoScript "cross-scripting" and "click-jacking" alerts.
When you go to the REAL amazon page:
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
Something's just not right. Here's a less than glowing testimonial from a verified purchaser:
By Rebecca BeiterAmazon Verified Purchase(What's this?) This review is from: Evictor Strobe Light MB10K This product does not work. I don't know where all of the testimonials come from on this website and on the manufacturers site. I have had these in the attic for over a week with 4-5 squirrels. They almost seem to be mocking the strobe light. I had two lights in a 1000' attic and yesterday I went up to check out the situation. Sitting at the edge of the attic where the roof line meets was a medium sized flying squirrel, staring at me and the strobe light right next to me. I stood and watched him for about 5 minutes. He did not blink, move or run away. As I started to walk back to the staircase he jumped back down between the joists. I have heard them constantly the last 24 hours. If they ultimately work I will revise/update my review but this is a WARNING to avoid this product. As of now, 7.5 days and just as loud and active as ever.
Another review says:
By Robert Antonishak (West Chester, PA United States) - See all my reviewsAmazon Verified Purchase(What's this?) This review is from: Evictor Strobe Light MB10K The lights don't work. I had heard about and even saw a local TV mister fixi t recommend the strobe lights as a sure way to get rid of squirrels. Based on the recommendations and my attic configuration I purchased two lights ($500.00) and installed them six weeks ago. Since installing the lights I have removed 10 squirrels using a "havahart" trap even with the lights. I must admit at first I thought it was the same squirrel coming back after freeing them only a few miles from the house. The last 5 have been released 20 miles from the house and in a manner that they are never coming back. Just before I fell asleep last night I heard another scampering in the attic, the lights don't work. In fact the light may give the squirrels better light at night to find the peanut butter in the trap.
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Talks about a combo ultrasonic/strobe repellent device. They say that corn consumption declined only when the strobes were NOT working.
What I have found is a suspicious number of websites that purport to be independent reviews but that all sound suspiciously the same, right down to the: "The ciliary muscle in the eye controls the expansion and contraction of the pupil. The usual adjustments made by this muscle are small."
How many different websites do you own?
I have to say, I smell a rat.
-- Bobby G.
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