This is just the kind of guy who would make a false report for money, who would risk embarrassment and even criminal charges if any apply for money. QED Quod Eratica Demolitiones.
I have doubts about that. I need to try it on my car, which of course is not a Prius. But couldn't he at least reach the rear end of the mat and pull the whole mat back. Although I guess he didn't say that.
When there is no victim, I think acting like cops means taking a report.
Balloon boy could have happened, couldn't it. The sheriff didn't see the balloon until after it landed.
Exactly. Beyond ludicrous all the way around to reasonable.
BTW, lie detectors are (often?) crap. They talk about liars fooling the examiner, but the problem they don't talk about is non-liars being labeled as liars.
After my first year in college, at my summer job, I used to get groggy at my desk during coffee breaks (I don't drink coffee). I was at the doctor for something else and mentioned this and he sent me to some big specialist in Chicago, who saw me for free as a courtesy to his friend. The doctor, head of neurology at Univeristy of Illinois Medical Center, gave me a sleeping EEG and said I didn't have epilepsy and never did. (The GP had thought I did since I was 13)
I told them how I felt faint (and did faint once or twice) when I stood up suddenly. They called a lab in the building to check that out but they couldn't set up until Monday. My mother wanted to leave the next day so we ended up going to the leading lie detector place in Chicago. Only for the blood pressure part, but he asked me if I would like the whole test (same price) and being an 18-year old boy, I was curious. My mother told me later that before the test even started, he came into the waiting room and told her, "Don't worry Mrs. MM2005, we had a case like this last week and it was all in her mind."
When I got the report back it was full of omissions and factual mistakes, that distorted everything I had said. Especially the parts he paraphrased. He concluded I was making up my symptoms and I can assure you I wasn't. In fact all I had was "orthostatic hypotension" a drop in blood pressure when standing up, something more than a third of people have, but mine was enough to make me pass out a few times, and a few times since then, when I stretched my muscles, and now when I cough a lot. But it's never come close to happening when I'm driving.
This lie detector place in Chicago was even known the Acting Medical Examiner of NYC when I talked to him, and the guy who "examined" me was supposed to be one of their best (although maybe not since he was the one they had come in on Saturday, but he was still good enough to work there.) I think the guy wished he had a better education and a better job and was pretending to himself to be a wise and knowledgable doctor, instead of a polygraph examiner.
I left out some details, like what the omissions and mistakes were, but this is a major reason that lie detector testimony is not admissable in court.
I have no reason to lie about this. There were no consequences to me. The specialist relayed the lie detector report with very little comment, only to say that it said I was malingering, and my own GP may have also been annoyed at me, especially since he was disproven about the epilepsy (which I was glad of. He hadn't told me I had epilepsy. If he had, I would have known he was wrong, because epileptic seizures occur seemingly at random times, not when you stand up), but there were no consequences to that either. I was away at school 9 months a year and by the next year my parents had moved to another city, so I never saw him again anyhow.
It's covered in mylar like the balloon is, or is made of, but it's definitely a box.
If they slashed the balloon itself it's because he wasn't in the box when they thought he was so they were looking everywhere. In a hot air balloon, one can crawl into the balloon part, especially when the flame is off or after it lands.
There are always two usages of "in the balloon". One considers the entire contraption the balloon and "in the balloon" means in the basket under the balloon. That's what the meaning is here.
The other refers to the part that holds the hot air, in a hot air balloon. And in a helium balloon, it refers to the rubber or mylar balloon, and no one goes into that. It's entrance is probably less than an inch wide. Even for a 6'foot diameter balloon or bigger the opening is only an inch or less. But the cops were desperate and maybe there were multiple rubber balloons and they thought it possibley he could have slid in between two of them. Are they supposed to look only in the basket and then say, "I guess he's not here."
This assumes there are no false positives from lie detector personnel There are. It can further convince them that you are guilty.
I don't know how many false positives there are, reporting that someone actually telling the truth is lying, and no one talks about them but I've been there. And there wasn't even any crime or civil complaint involved. Please see one of my other posts in this thread.
Some African tribe had a practice, to determine who was teling the truth, of heating something, maybe it was a ceremonial piece of metal to which magical properties were attributed, and having the accused or maybe even witnesses to a crime (I forget) open their mouths and allow the heated thing to be applied to their tongue for an instant. I do believe it was thought to be a magical test of telling the truth, but cynics about magic would say that anyone who was lying was afraid that his tongue would be burnt and his mouth would dry, making that very thing happen.
Those who were not lying were confident no harm would come and their tongues were normally wet, and indeed a moment of being touched didn't hurt them.
Further making it seem like magic. I'm sure a lot of them knew it wasn't, but it was the system.
It is a box, and if you look around I'm pretty sure you can find photos or video showing it in detail with the door open and closed. It was intended for cameras and weather instruments, not human passengers. It was big enough for a small kid to get inside.
The cops slashed the balloon because the wind was catching it and they wanted to make sure it stayed right where it was.
Right. That's why the thing looked like a mushroom. The stem was the box. There's not a lot of point to building a balloon that won't carry a payload. If that's all you want, you can buy one fully made at the supermarket.
Oh, yeah. That was why. The balloon wasn't empty, it still had helium, almost enough to fly since until a littel while earlier it was flying, so letting out the helium kept the wind from taking it away.
You can deny it being part of the baloon all you want. It won't change the facts. That is standard baloon construction method. Compare it with almost any picture of a baloon. You can also do some searching on the 'net for a summary of the action that day and yu will find that there is no 'box'
Try again. STandard instrumentation on such baloons is suspended _below_ it, not _in_ it.
I listened to the entire thing and the 'box discussion was proven invalid. IIANM it was even mentioned in summaries at the end of the 'action"
It is amazing how people can get two different 'facts' from the same show, one wrong, one right and I am on the right side.
Even the construction of your 'box' shows it wasn't. Clearly covered with the same stuff as the baloon and thus too flimsy to hold _anything_ heavier than a few pounds and that would ahve to be spread out.
The box was described after the fact as being made of very lightweight panels taped together that would not have been strong enough to hold the boy while airborne. It was in fact, intended to carry instruments that did not weigh very much.
No one knew any of this, or even the size and carrying capacity of the balloon itself until after the fact. Pretty hard to judge the size of it when it was a tiny dot in the sky with nothing next to it for comparison. All they had to go on was what was reported BY THE FAMILY, who said they thought the booy was in the balloon and had somehow launched himself. That is the sum total of what was known until much later.
When the balloon first landed and the boy was not in the box, it was feared that he had fallen out.
Shrug. If you make the same typo 50 times, it's not a "typo". And the plural of "typo" is "typos", not "typo's", which is the possessive. Yes, as a matter of fact I did used to teach English. :)
I didn't count how many times anybody used baloon where you or I might use balloon. It's not a way to win an argument in usenet, where few bother with spellcheck, most posts are casual conversation, and many participants do not speak English as their first language.
Typo's is short for "Typographical Errors" - the apostrophe is correct, and does not make it possessive.
The CHP saw an act. They saw a guy allegedly "standing on the brakes" but he was in a different car with two steel doors between them. The driver may have been standing on his brakes or he may have been having an orgasm from jerking off too. Neither can be proved or disproved from a visual in a different car.
I was watching a James Bond movies and I'm positive that Bond really did jump out of that plane and land on his feet. I saw it.
We've not seen the final report yet either. It may take a while for the true story to come out. We may see some ail time here. I wonder if Judge Ito will hear the case.
Yep, there is no true answer now, and maybe never can be. A lot of things happen once, that cannot be repeated. The only thing that could cast doubt on his story is his past history, but that's not proof that he is lying now.
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