split A/C - two indoor units? Heat pump?

You have received a straight answer, you just didn't like it.

The LG and Mits. mini-split HVAC units *do* have a proven track record of reliability, you just have to look outside the US where those products have been common and popular for a long time. The fact that they are relatively new to the US in no way detracts from their history outside the US.

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Pete C.
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Who the f*ck is talking about Mitsubishi, other than you? Korea is not part of Japan. That's like me saying, since I don't like German cars, I won't buy a SAAB.

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willshak

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Did you notice that these are mostly the LG and Mitsubishi units?

Reply to
Pete C.

I'm gonna talk to my dog about the difference between Korea and Japan, and LG and Mitsubishi. He'll probably understand.

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willshak

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This is too funny for words. The site he posted has 11 Mitsubishi heat pumps, 3 LGs, and 3 Friedrichs. Make sure you buy one of the Friedrichs, Nate! Excuse me while I go laugh in another room. I'm disturbing my family.

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willshak

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> thanks, this looks like what I'm really looking for:

DOH! :-)

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willshak

OK, I'll accept that, although I might want to see some evidence of that.

the statement that "I'm saying it doesn't apply to *ANY* of their (Mitsubishi and LG's) products" which is what was stated earlier in this thread, is FALSE. I've heard quite enough to know that there's some products from both of those companies that I am perfectly happy staying far, far away from.

Huh? I'm aware that they are two separate companies. I'm saying that BOTH have a poor track record with their most visible (at least to me) products in the US.

nate

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Nate Nagel

Actually the high SEER ones (which I would consider a must) seem to be mostly Friedrich. I don't know if that's a relabel or if they still make their own stuff.

nate

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Nate Nagel

My statement was specific to the LG products, and your implication that they were somehow "made in China crap".

I've not had any Mitsubishi products personally, but I have had a diverse array of LG products and have had zero problems with any of them.

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Pete C.

subject to electrical codes and the climate and whether you are storing flammables in the garage: for immediate use might be 250 watt infrared brooder lamps, this will provide warmth and light if white or warmth with less light if red. it warms your skin and surfaces where you point it, but wont warm the air much. compare this to halogen lighting, where you can have three 500 watt outdoor worklights or instead five 300 watt worklights. halogen worklights get hot and may be specific to outdoor use only, so are not necessarily allowed in your garage in your location. if you have gasoline in the garage you probably need to use electric heat that is appropriate for that envoronment. otherwise you will approximately get about 5200 btuh's out of any 1500 watt electric heater which fills up a 15 amp circuit. there is some spray on foam insulation for open studs which might be of use to contain the heat, subject to local codes. if your climate is hot and dry, swamp coolers use water and a sponge or belt with a fan to lower the temperature. these don't work effectively in hot and humid conditions. subject to the size of the garage and its insulation, there are are residential wall air conditioners with electric heat in them, limited to your electricity at the garage, but i don't know if they are approved for your local use.

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buffalobill

I live near DC so my climate is the very definition of "hot and humid." For the garage bay, due to the way that the space is laid out, I might have an issue using a wall unit - the two walls that would be suitable for such are also VERY close to the property line. The other two walls are taken up by the garage door and a staircase. I also liked the idea of a split because that way I wouldn't have to buy another separate unit for upstairs - that could actually be livable space if it were heated/cooled. The whole building is actually very well insulated; it was marginally livable in there today while it was pushing 100 outside.

nate

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Nate Nagel

I'm sorry, Nate. I didn't realize that you intended to live above the garage. Trouble with the wife? Split doesn't mean it will serve two separate places. In a split AC or heat pump, the compressor is outside the building while the blower is mounted in the wall inside the building. Maybe you ought to investigate that further before buying any unit, Mitsubishi or otherwise.

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willshak

*facepalm*

I'm aware of this, that's why I'm POSTING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.

My original question was - can you get a split system that uses a single condenser to which you can attach multiple indoor evaporator units. Apparently the answer to this is yes. The second question was if they were A/C only or if heat pump units were available, and it seems that they are available as heat pumps. The third, implied question was "who makes a good unit."

If I wanted someone to give me copious amounts of shit because I'm not an expert on what is (at least around here) a rather unusual product, I would have asked for that. I don't remember doing so.

In fact, if you think about it, if I *were* an expert, would I be asking any questions at all? No, I'd probably be out buying stuff and/or getting quotes from installers.

You must be ten tons of fun at parties...

*plonk*

nate

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Nate Nagel

Well, then I misinterpreted. But the LG dehumidifiers that I was just admiring the other day in that Orange Colored Store were, in fact, made in China. (as are some "American" brands as well - there were some "Zenith" units in the same display that looked like they rolled off the same assembly line.)

I've got one of their cell phones in my pocket right now, and it is OK - not stellar, but comparable to my Motorola. (one is mine, one is the company's.) However, I've heard bad things about their washers/dryers and dehumidifiers, two product lines that I've had recent interest in.

nate

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Nate Nagel

I agree.

The second question was if they

Yes, I agree.

The third, implied question was "who

Carrier, among others.

Yes, I am, especially when people like you are comparing apples to oranges.

Ah, f*ck! You asked questions of me and then won't listen to my answers. I wish that I had seen this last line before responding. I only have so many keystrokes left in me.

Reply to
willshak

Don't scare him. He may think you are sending him to Korea to become food.

Reply to
Edwin Pawlowski

Entirely possible, since dehumidifiers are a low end item generally. Other good brands outsource some of their bottom end stuff to China as well, but the common thread is that they generally design the items and maintain quality control over them.

One of my previous LG phones got dropped off a second floor roof and survived without a scratch (landed on semi packed dirt). The successor LG phone survived a near drowning without lasting effects, and was just replaced last week with a Motorola one only because I needed a GSM capable phone for foreign travel. The LG DVD recorder in one of my PC continues to work well. LG is currently one of the largest producers of LCD displays and a large percentage of the LCD TVs you see use LG panels.

I can't imagine what problems may be had with a dehumidifier, it's a rather simple device. I've not used any LG appliances, but I've seen them in the stores and they seem well made.

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Pete C.

I'm looking at my LG monitor to type this. The old Goldstar appliances were of marginal quality, but the LG series seems to be very good quality. We have the PTT phones in work and one was flushed and recovered. Still works after cleaning.

Reply to
Edwin Pawlowski

That doesn't matter to someone where the very name LG brings up thoughts of Mitsubishi.

Reply to
willshak

Sorry Ed, not good enough for a testimonial about Mitsubishi. Try again. :-)

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willshak

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