Spider control?

Spiders .. Spiders .. killed 4 of the bastards tonight .. one with a yellow body, the others with a dark colored body (all smashed :) ) I live in Washington State, so I'm not overly concerned about the deadly spiders. However, I know this is the time of year for them to start hatching, and walking about.. what is a good way to control this little bastards?

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clevere
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"This little bastards" will control themselves. They're there for your own good. Enjoy! Tom clevere wrote:>Spiders .. Spiders .. killed 4 of the bastards tonight .. one with a yellow

Someday, it'll all be over....

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Tom

Yeah, but you know what I mean... I leave em alone outside, but they are coming inside ... With kids, I wouldn't mind taken em out...

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clevere

There are chemical spays that will help, but will need to be re done from time to time. If they are seasonal, you may be able to time your applications for most effect.

A call to a professional may produce some new ideas. To some extent these problems are regional so your problems may be different than mine. I would expect there to be different problems on each side of the mountains in Washington State.

Of course, if you eliminate the spiders, you eliminate natures insect control and you may find other problems.

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Joseph Meehan

:) Spiders .. Spiders .. killed 4 of the bastards tonight .. one with a yellow :) body, the others with a dark colored body (all smashed :) ) I live in :) Washington State, so I'm not overly concerned about the deadly spiders. :) However, I know this is the time of year for them to start hatching, and :) walking about.. what is a good way to control this little bastards? :)

It all depends on the type of spider you are fighting. You can routinely treat the around the perimeter of the house 10 feet out and up the side of the house, Using a micro encapsulated formulation would work best. Sometimes an attic or crawlspace dusting is needed. An insecticide dust in the weep holes or other crevices found around the structure.

Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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Lar

Perhaps you should go in for counseling to control your fear.

As far as the spiders, ignore them because they're beneficial.

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davefr

I had the same problem here because this place had been vacant for some time. This advice from a friend at the university extension service. Seal up all cracks around the foundation. Outside, spray around doors, windows and all openings with a long lasting pesticide containing cyfluthrin such as the one made by Bayer. Spray 10 feet up the side of the house and 10 feet out. Trim all vegetation 18 inches away from the house. Inside vacuum along baseboards and pay special attention to carpets and curtains. Keep bedding off the floor and away from the wall. Store unused clothes and towels in plastic containers, get rid of corrugated boxes. Fog monthly with pyrethrin fogger. I prefer non-flammable Raid Fumigators but they cost a little more than the petroleum based foggers. When you first begin treatment, it will make spiders more active as you drive them out of the walls. Within a couple of weeks the problem will begin to lessen. Regarding the pro's, I've had four different exterminators over the years and the results were disappointing. They all came in the first time and made a big show. After that, with a signed contract is was always a hassle to get them to do their job. If you go with a pro, find one that doesn't require a contract. Then he'll know you can fire him anytime if he doesn't keep doing the job. With a signed contract there is no incentive for them to do a good job. I've found I can do a better job myself at half the cost.

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rck

I would agree that overall spiders are beneficial. They feed on other spiders, bugs and table scraps. However, here in Tennessee, we have an abundance of black widows and the very dangerous brown recluse. A determined effort must be made to control both of these in the homes. It is indeed unfortunate that no method exists to kill only these two spiders. Effective pest control will invariably kill many insects, good and bad. Such is life and death. Better them than me.

Bob

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rck

Be sure to set aside funds to cover strange lingering illnesses. Children are pretty tough - they hang on longer than big people. Very expensive.

Hint: Pyrethrin's one of the safest "cides" around. But, the "carrier" - the so called inert ingredients in pesticides - they haven't been subject to testing since the late 1960s or early 1970s.

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Doug Kanter

Do you have a basement?

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Doug Kanter

Have you ever seen the bite of a brown recluse? It's real nasty. You can lose a limb and rarely your life. There is risk in everything we do. Living causes dying. Meanwhile we try to make the best choices, although I'll agree nothing is perfect. I'll risk the pesticides rather than a brown recluse bite. Everyone has to weigh the risks and decide which risks are acceptable to them. The main inert ingredient in the Raid Fumigator is water. I think water has been well tested over the years and has a good track record. I'd guess you probably live in a part of the country where there is little risk from poisonous creatures. Maybe you're a Yankee?

Bob

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rck

We have brown recluse spiders here, but usually not in the house. You also have to weigh the odds, I guess. Run into a certain spider how often? Bathe the house in chemicals how often? You're talking monthly?

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Doug Kanter

No, under the house is a big cement block.

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clevere

OK. I was curious because it seemed that most of the spiders in my house came from the basement, and were greatly reduced after certain measures were taken. But, the measures would only apply to a basement. Never mind.

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Doug Kanter

:) Perhaps you should go in for counseling to control your fear. :) :) As far as the spiders, ignore them because they're beneficial.

Why must it be "a fear" to get rid of an over population of spiders.....they are, as most things beneficial until they become a nuisance, be it from a fear or just an embarrassment of having them run about at will...most would consider lady bugs beneficial, but when they over populate creating a major cost by ruining a carpet, the hind sight is always "should of treated for them before they were a problem"

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Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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Lar

:) Hint: Pyrethrin's one of the safest "cides" around. But, the "carrier" - the :) so called inert ingredients in pesticides - they haven't been subject to :) testing since the late 1960s or early 1970s.

?????? Here is the EPA site, updated Jan 2004, of the lists for inert materials allowed to be used in pest control products.

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Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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Lar

Very nice web site you provided. You should read it.

You must be very young. You've missed 20 years' worth of knowledge. It's not nice to gamble with the health of your children and their children. Here are a few resources for your enlightenment:

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" Inert ingredients, on the other hand, were not subject to testing requirements until 1987.(7) The requirements for health and safety testing of inerts which EPA established at that time were called "minimal"(7) even by EPA. They did not include tests for the following serious hazards:(7) a.. the ability to cause cancer a.. the ability to adversely affect fertility and reproduction a.. the ability to damage the nervous system No tests at all were required of inerts already in use in 1987; testing requirements apply only to inerts first used in pesticides since that date.(7)

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" Unfortunately, the public is not provided information about what inert ingredients are included in pesticide products in most cases, despite the fact that inert ingredients may comprise over 99% of the total pesticide formulation and may be significantly more toxic than the active ingredient. A recent study found that at least 382 of the chemicals that the U.S EPA lists as inert ingredients were once, or currently are, also registered as active ingredients. Among the ingredients listed as both inert and active ingredients are chloropicrin, which has been linked to asthma and pulmonary edema and chlorthanonil, a probable human carcinogen.

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Doug Kanter

No problem. This place was built upon a huge cement block. Really odd if you ask me .. but hey, I just rent the joint.

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clevere

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:) > :) Hint: Pyrethrin's one of the safest "cides" around. But, the :) "carrier" - the :) > :) so called inert ingredients in pesticides - they haven't been subject :) to :) > :) testing since the late 1960s or early 1970s. :) >

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:) > ?????? Here is the EPA site, updated Jan 2004, of the lists for inert :) > materials allowed to be used in pest control products. :) >

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:) :) Very nice web site you provided. You should read it. :) :) You must be very young. You've missed 20 years' worth of knowledge. It's not :) nice to gamble with the health of your children and their children. Here are :) a few resources for your enlightenment: :) :) " Inert ingredients, on the other hand, were not subject to testing :) requirements until 1987.(7) The requirements for health and safety testing :) of inerts which EPA established at that time were called "minimal"(7) even :) by EPA. They did not include tests for the following serious hazards:(7) :) a.. the ability to cause cancer :) a.. the ability to adversely affect fertility and reproduction :) a.. the ability to damage the nervous system :) No tests at all were required of inerts already in use in 1987; testing :) requirements apply only to inerts first used in pesticides since that :) date.(7) :) Just questioning the statement you painted insinuating no testing has been done on inerts since the 60's when in fact several category listings are kept by the EPA, with evaluation of many being an ongoing process. By just the fact that a tolerance exemption may be granted under the FQPA, passage in 1996, suggests that ongoing monitoring/testing must be going on.

Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!

It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

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Lar

Not really. Many nasty things happen because consumers are comfortable with the mistaken belief that "if it's being sold, it must be safe".

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Doug Kanter

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