Speaking of urinals. Short question follows long explanation.

You can skip the long explanation and go directly to the short question by scrolling down to the line of asterisks, but the explanation is needed to explain why it can't be done economically any other way.
My office in is a mostly underground 1/2 basement. It does have the usual basement windows (5 of the 30" x 18" hopper type in two concrete walls) and a bilco door to the outside rear of the house. The other half of my house's footprint is on a ground level slab. I have both a septic tank and an underground dry well (grey water tank for sinks, showers, clothes washer, dishwasher, and water softener discharge). The pipe for the septic tank is on the far end of the house under the concrete slab. The pipe and cleanout for the dry well is just to the right of me here in the basement. When the house was built, a separate drain pipe for the bathroom sinks and showers on the far end of the house was run under the slab for the dry well on the opposite end of the house (just outside my basement office). I have no water facilities in my basement at the moment, not because I can't have water or dry well access, but because I just haven't installed it yet. I've only lived here since 1984. :-) I intend to install a utility sink near the dry well clean out. Along with a drain pump like the Sanishower to pump the drainwater up above the drywell cleanout (about 4 feet off the floor). I can run hot and cold water from the water heater utility room that is about 10' away from the dry well pipe and cleanout. I have a dropped ceiling in the basement so I can run pex from the water heater room to the utility sink over the ceiling panels.
Now that you have all the above information, and I hope I wrote it intelligently enough for you to grasp the situation, here is the second set of facts and the question. I am 73 years old and have a severe prostate problem. I may have to urinate 10 or more times a day. As it is now, I have to go up a flight of stairs to the ground floor, and then to the opposite of the house to urinate.
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What would be the problem if I installed a urinal next to the future utility sink and pump drained that along with the utility sink into the drywell? I understand that urine is sterile and contains nitrogen and other chemicals that are probably less toxic than some of the chemicals that run through the grey water drains. P.S. I am being polite here. I could just as easily urinate into the utility sink without having a urinal.
By the way, I did google the question but found nothing about this.
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Google waterless urinal. I've been to a few in public places and was amazed at the lack of stink. Don't quite know how they work, though ... <snicker>
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Han wrote the following:

They still need to drain somewhere.
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I don't know the answer, but I'd take a different route. Instead of a urinal, I'd install an ejector toilet and take care of anyone's toilet needs.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote the following:

The Sanishower I mentioned is an ejector system. It can pump liquid up to 10 feet high. My question was if I should drain the urinal contents (#1) into a dry well, nothing more. The SaniFlo company also makes a macerator pump that will pulverize solids (#2), but I don't have to make that many trips to the bathroom daily and I wouldn't want to pump solids into the dry well. http://www.saniflo.com/products/index/show-rooms/lang/en/type/all
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I'd not pump anything into the drywell, thus the suggestion for an ejector toilet. It goes into the regular sewer or septic, the way it is supposed to be taken care of.
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<SNIP>

Assuming you find some reason to _not_ to pump urine into the drywell, have you considered using a Port-A-Potty ??
http://www.adventurerv.net/thetford-porta-pottipotty-135-portable-toilet-camper-p-621.html
It could be emptied as needed (once a day ??) into your regular toilet. And could also handle the occasional #2 as necessary. Should not get too heavy to carry upstairs with 1 persons output per day.
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willshak wrote the following:
Thanks for all the responses so far. Do not respond any further unless it is to another responder. EOM Over and out.
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willshak wrote:

I'd pee in the sink. Nothing like having a client conference in a toilet.
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HeyBub wrote the following:

I don't have clients. I am retired and not in any business. Over 43 years of my 73 years were spent in the military and law enforcement, which means that in 13 years when I am 86, if I live that long, I will break even between service and non-service years.
My computer and hobby workshop is down here in the basement. It also serves as a man-cave where I can lounge on my couch in my underwear, and watch my own cable TV while others upstairs are watching 'American Idol', 'Dancing with the Stars', "Ghost Whisperer", or some other crap. My basement is sacrosanct. It does not contain anything belonging to anyone else. I just call where I am sitting in front of the computer in a corner of the basement an office. I have done and do some website creation and maintenance, pro bono, for sites I am interested in, but most times just conversing in usenet. My hobby workshop is in another part of the basement. BTW, my hobby is model building, especially stuff from WWII, which frightened me when I was a child between 4 and 7 years old living in the Bronx, NY. Tomorrow, I am going to relive the horror of 9/11 that I was watching on CNN from before the very first strike on the South Tower until CNN went off the air when the North Tower collapsed and took the CNN antenna down with it.
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wrote:

I've got pretty much the same setup. But my wife also watches a lot of Lifetime and Jewelry TV. Heh. And I have a laundry down here with a double deep sink. I sometime piss in quart container I keep on the back of the sink. Pour it into the drain. That way I don't splash piss all over the sink. The drain goes to the sewer system. Mostly only do it if I have to piss real bad, somebody's in the bathroom, or my wife is sleeping and I don't want the squeaky floors to wake her. You might not like this, but at your age walking upstairs to piss might be real good for you exercise wise. Keep a jug for emergencies. I keep my smokes upstairs on the kitchen table just so I have to walk upstairs to get one. That makes sure I'm climbing the stairs 25-30 times a day and can't chain smoke. I'm health conscious that way.
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Vic Smith wrote the following:

I do have a 5 gallon FreshStep kitty litter container left over from the time we had a cat that I use now. I have to drag it up the stairs at night when no one is around to dump it in the toilet, but I find that rather demeaning. My only question is what harm would it do to empty urine into a dry well meant to accept grey water. By the responses so far, no one here knows
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The guy I bought from had prostate problems and a business office in the basement so I inherited this when we bought the house. Between the exercise I get going to the basement and the water it saves compared to a toilet flush I use it most all the time. The Ajax bottle is actually a weak solution of bleach & water that I find eliminates the men's room smell when I give the urinal a squirt after I'm done with mine.
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Just don't mix bleach and ammonia.
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On 9/10/2011 9:53 PM, willshak wrote: (snip)

I'm either gonna keep the tube off tomorrow, or maybe watch some of the backlogged stuff on the overflowing DVR. I have no wish to ever see any of that footage again. I remember that day like it was no more than a month ago. They sent us home from our federal building out here in the boondocks at noon, and I spent the afternoon logged into the agency email server (mail wasn't locked down back then) answering email from all over the world, and watching the news on TV for about 18 hours straight, till I fell asleep on the couch. Not the MOST disturbing day in my life, but definitely in the top five or so.
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