If it was just the alternator no reason he could not have used the
battery from the car to start it, and plug in a battery charger to
keep it up and run the ignition. (Unless you mean the BIG alternator
---in which case he WAS screwed.
Unless outages are more frequent that they are around here, I think the
substantial PITA factor of deploying two portables is more than
compensated for by the reliability factor of a much simpler setup.
I started out with a single portable (2kw) because our house cruises on
800-1200 watts. Got the second one for redundancy - but being able to
run the big microwave, the toaster, and/or the coffee maker is a
A few more years and I may have a change of heart... but that's the way
I see it now.
On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 9:08:26 PM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
if you ever vacation in the winter where things can freeze.you will regret the day you didnt get a automatic standby generator.
as your cleaing up and dealing with frozen smashed toilets, frozen dishwasher, frozen washing machine etc etc.....
if you have a boiler for stem heat, it will be very worse.....
if you get a auto standby geneator that doesnt stop you from buying a portable too.
and with all the computer hacking the feds have admitted our power grid can be attacked.
so add in someone intentionally turning our power off:(
That just means it worked the last time you tested it - and if you
didn't test it for 6 months you'd still know it ran the last time you
tested it. I've heard a LOT of noise about the permanently installed
Generac air cooled units being total junk. Like not working 2 days
after a test run, when the power goes out. And not lasting as long as
a cheap Briggs and Stratton.
On 07/19/2015 11:12 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I've got a 6-year-old 16k Generac and never had a problem with it.
Every summer we get a really nasty thunderstorm that knocks out
power for 72 hours. Generac has saved the day every time.
That being said, I also had a power inlet installed so that I can easily
attach a portable...if I ever need. ;-)
FWIW, back in the good-old-days (before deregulation), the power lines
were cleared of trees and the power never went out.
We didn't need no stinkin' generators.
I was "walking the lines" one winter after a major storm had cut power
for many, many people. (everybody in the company who could be spared
and who was willing got trained on how to "walk the lines" and spot
problems after a storm).
One guy started ranting at me about how he had never, ever, in his whole
life seen power outages like he saw when he moved here.
"Where did you live before coming here?"
"Lotta trees in Saudi Arabia, are there?"
I guess one nuke detonated high up could shut down a good share of the
U.S. Wouldn't one have to have a huge supply of fuel on hand if that
I imagine it would take some time to get anything up and running again.
I've heard Texas is on it's own as far as power goes.
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My vacationing days are over - but I take your point.... had not thought
OTOH, when we did leave the house we learned to drain the water system
before leaving. The lesson that taught us that was the #1 daughter's
copper plumbing suddenly springing multiple pinhole leaks from something
to do with the character of their water... they weren't away and it
wasn't winter... but if they were away the house would have been nearly
But five days of freezing temps even without water in the system? I
can't think anything good could come out of that.
I have a tri-fuel Champion unit at the house and a dual fuel (propane
and Gasoline) at the office. If you are going to test run them, run
them long enough to get them fully warmed up and the battery
replenished from starting - or better to just leave them sit. Properly
stored, a Propane or NG powered unit should be OK sitting for several
YEARS without starting, as long as the battery is properly maintained.
A 440CC engine might be a bit challenging to start with the rope
starter when cold and the fuel system not primed.
A gasoline unit would need the fuel freshened every once in a while.
Store the unit dry and keep a supply of ethanol free fuel on hand -
kept fresh by rotating into your road vehicle or other regularly used
The office unit has 2 30 lb propane bottles sitting waiting, and a 20
lb BarB Q tank with however much happens to be left in it at any time
as a spare.
The home unit runs off NG, but I have the adaptor to also run off
Propane if required and I generally have at least 1 20 lb tank on
hand, as well as a few gallons of Gasoline for the
lawnmower/snowblower etc which can be pressed into use if required.
I start them twice a year to test, and that's more than adequate
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