On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:05:35 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
Lots of cities are implementing "heritage districts" and rules that
give a lot more than a slap of the rist to those destroying buildings
in those heritage districts.
The big surprise?? Home values in those heritage districts, where you
are severely limited in what you can change on the visible exterior of
the buildings, almost invariably goes UP.
In my area the older houses are sold as "tear-downs" and sell for a bit
less. The real cost is in the land. A $300K house on a $1.7 million lot
costs $2 million. A $50K house on a $1.7 million lot costs $1.75 million.
Diamond tools may not last long (iyo) cutting metal but they work just
fine on rebar or wire in concrete or metal lath in plaster.
I've had 100's of inches of concrete with rebar cored drilled. I've
even done some myself with a Hilti diamond core rig.
I might even have some #9 rebar slugs that where completely cored out
of a concrete footing with a 2 1/2" core bit.
I know I have some cores where steel was cut nearly the entire core
Diamond tools will make short work of embedded steel.
Ditto that. A lot of times there are lengthy threads with a lot of
suggestions/debate and then it's off into the ether and we never hear
BTW, in future, next time you have a question for people to diagnose
upload some pictures on a free hosting site and post the links here.
It makes it more interesting, efficient and fun.
Very interesting problem and solution.
For what it's worth, I just spent a few years in Europe courtesy of my
Most of the construction was plaster over masonry, even interior
walls. Nobody had ever heard of fishing a wire. Standard practice
was to route out a narrow slot, add wire, plaster over. Once painted
it was invisible.
It left the wire pretty close to the surface and uncautious Americans
often put a nail through it hanging a picture, etc. But since they
always honored the conventions about where to put the wire, the locals
never had that problem.
You make your slot very carefully vertical. Anywhere you see a switch
or an outlet, you assume there is a wire running vertically floor to
ceiling; But you won't have a wire even a short distance away from
that vertical channel. The rest of the wall is safe.
Obviously there is a horizontal channel too. That will be
consistently low or high. I don't know how they chose, I didn't get
that detailed and there was a language barrier.
Wait a minute, you're telling me they use _logic_...? Wouldn't that
take all the fun and excitement out of remodeling???
"Hey be careful - you don't know what's inside that wall."
"Listen, I know what I'm doing, I've done it a thousand times before,
there's no WAY a wire could be.....ZAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!:
"Woah. That was close..."
See what I mean? Without the excitement and danger, you might as well
get a regular job or knit or something. ;)
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