I ran a new circuit in my brother-in-laws condo that has all FPE
panels. I needed a spare breaker and came across the skinny breakers
that take up 1/2 of a normal breaker slot.
Are these breakers suppose to be that loose when you put them in?
They have the 2 brass stab-pins at the end. It does not seem to
secure. can I spread the pins out? Are the regular sized "fat"
breakers any better?
I'm well aware of the issues. I just had to install 1 new circuit for
a kitchen remodel. The town requires using BX.
This is a 70 unit condo all with FPE panels. If they are concerned
with me using BX, that should be the least of their concerns.
be certain to install in pairs, just leave one unused
the FPE stab lock panels have a excellent reputation as a fire starter;
search FPE STAB LOCK to learn more than you ever want to know........
Haller, you need to separate FACT from HYSTERIA, instead you just promote
HYSTERIA. Do you really believe that if ALL FPE panels and breakers were
death traps, as you advocate, that they wouldn't have been recalled or at
least outlawed by municipalities. Do you really believe that they would
STILL be selling U.L. listed breakers, if they had a propensity to burst
into flames. Use a little common sense
ahh my point was the panel he worked on is likey filled with possible
fire makers. since he worked on it, if a fire occurs they will assume
it was him.
take a look back he didnt tell that he knew they were trouble till i
the point about new FPE breakers being ok is a good one. a person with
a FPE panel might choose to just replace all the existing breakers,
but they cost a fortune a new panel might be cheaper.
google FPE and fire.
around here you CANT sell a home with a FPE panel untill its been
replaced. obviously your not aware of how hazardous they really
I am well aware of the FPE issues. In fact I had one in my own house
when I bought it before I changed it 6 months later.
As I mentioned this is a condo unit I am working in, and all of them
have FPE panels ( with the main breaker in the basement). I might just
buy a new breaker anyway just to have peace of mind.
It's nothing to do w/ you (or even the original post any longer,
Mike--haller always has to throw in his fud crap which has a bare
modicum of a fact but is always blown totally out of proportion to
I on occasion can bite the keyboard just so long before feel need to add
at least a little reason to temper him.
Almost all is FPE here, too...I have checked which series were used and
they're not on the list of those w/ falsified UL test data that did have
Without commenting on hallerb...
There is a list? Can you also determine if a breaker was made in the
period FPE was falsifying information? Both would be useful.
I believe the buss in some of the panels is screwed together and can
FPE breakers can be pretty loose.
At one time I did find reference to the affected parts, yes. It's been
long enough ago I don't recall where that was. I believe I have a list
of particulars squirreled away somewhere--if I can put my hands on it,
I'll try to post what I have. My recollection is there is a part no or
other identifying mark as well as the series numbers that are
identifiers but that is as stated--recollection.
Don't know about the panel issue--never seen any problem on any I have
nor have I ever had any significant issue w/ the fit of any in the
panels when the cover is in place.
Gory details here:
Click on Reports and Articles.
There is also a gallery of photos of other (un-related) incidents.
Click on Photo Library
exfpeguy had written this in response to
Actually its fine the way it is. The breaker is manufactured perfectly.
the breakers "stabs" will expand when a current is flowing throw the
breaker. The breaker may seem loose, but the stabs will hold in place.
Don't pry them apart to make them fit.
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