A plumber told me that it's a good idea to shut off water from the
washer when it's not in use because the flexible lines aren't rated to
A. Is that true?
B. Does the same apply to the gas line for the dryer?
Many thanks in advance!
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:13:52 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If I had an icemaker, the answer would be no. Of course, if you were
intellectually honest, you would have admitted that there is a bit of
a difference between the very tiny line to the icemaker, and the two
large diameter hoses leading to the washer.
I can tell you an icemaker story. A neighbor had GE service her
refrigerator and right after they were done left town for 2 weeks. When she
came back the house was flooded because the ice maker line had been damaged
when the refrigerator was pushed back into position. The good part of the
story is GE gave no arguement and paid to have her house repaired.... which
was quite extensive.
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:35:39 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Why is it wrong? 1/4" pipe is roughly 1/4 the circular mils of 1/2"
pipe. (some refrigerators are plumbed with 3/8" to get better flow out
of "water in the door")
Since a large number of icemakers are hooked up with vinyl tubing and
the fridge itself is plumbed with vinyl tubing I see that as a greater
Cabinet bases are very susceptible to damage and replacing all the
base cabinets in a kitchen will be up in 5 figures. I don't see where
I am wrong.
Dumb----Ask yourself one question--am I better off with the water shut OFF
or ON. The machine shutoff valves are nickel and dime parts--Closure is
made with a small plunger pushed by a spring that's probably exerts a force
comparable to a ball point pen spring. Sure it works but to say that they
never fail----Consider a small piece of contamination on the shutoff valve
seat that starts out as a small leak that grows into a very big leak while
you're off on vacation somewhere.
If the hoses are not rated for the pressure they must not be very good
hoses. I am sure there are millions of homes with the hoses that never get
cut off. There are some valves you can install to cut the water off when
the washer is not in use or will detect a big leak and cut off the water.
If I was going on vacation I would cut off the water going to them or to the
hole house. I did have a hose to develope a leak while I was out of town
I now cut off the well pump (did not have that option at the other house) if
I go off overnight or longer.
The gas line is only under a couple of pounds of presure. Much less than 10
pounds so you do not have to worry about that line breaking.
My mother was visiting us in Arizona 7 or 8 years ago. We were sitting
in the family room talking, and she started obsessing over whether she
should have turned off the water in her house before she left. As I
was telling her not to worry, we heard the sound of running water, and
saw a widening circle of water creeping across the floor from the
laundry room. The hot water hose on the washer had split. Of course,
this did nothing to improve her frame of mind. I replaced those hoses
with the braided metallic armored kind (available in the home
centers), and got in the habit of turning off the water to the washer
when we were going to be away for a while. Probably a good idea to
change to new hoses each time you replace the washing machine. Fancy
armored hoses can be more expensive than the other kind, but they are
a lot cheaper than repairing the water damage from a leak that's been
running all day while you were at work.
So, yes, those hoses can break. On the other hand, who knows what is
worse for those washer supply hoses - constant pressure, or the
pressure surge every time you turn the supply back on?
I can remember seeing an episode of "Ask This Old House" where the
plumber guy installed one of those leak-detector shutoff valves on the
laundry water lines - you might be able to find it on their website.
Another opportunity for leaks is the water supply line to the toilet.
I had one let go at about 2AM, luckily in the bathroom right next to
our bedroom, so I heard the water running right away. It wasn't
actually the metal flex supply line - the plastic nut connecting to
the bottom of the toilet cracked and split at the joint between the
round and hex parts of the nut. Have since had 5 or 6 other people
tell me the same thing happened to them.
Many recent homes here in AZ have the water supply split at the entry
to the house. You can leave the water on to your lawn sprinkler system
so your lawn doesn't turn brown when you're gone for 3 weeks in the
summer - but you can shut off the main feed to the rest of the house.
I have been been tempted to use that shutoff several times on
vacations, but never have. If it's a concern, you might consider a bit
of minor replumbing to install an easily accessible whole-house
Kind of makes you want to go check your homeowners insurance for water
damage coverage doesn't it? ;->
My house was vacant for a while (we tried to sell it, but with the
housing market the way it is, that didn't happen). The day after we
decided to move back in, the toilet supply line in the master bath
failed in exactly the manner described above. A neighbor noticed water
flowing out of the house and called us. We have no way of knowing how
long the water had been spraying out of that crack in the plastic nut,
but all rooms were flooded but the two front bedrooms. All the
carpeting and all of the MDF baseboards in the flooded rooms were
ruined. The company that came out that evening drilled 1" holes in the
drywall everywhere and installed 5 industrial-sized dehumifiers and
about 20 high-power fans to dry everything out. It took a week. All
the flooring had to be replaced except the ceramic tile, and all the
flooded rooms were repainted. The total insurance settlement was about
All of this was caused by the failure of a part that costs less than $5
at Home Depot. For under $7 you can get one with a safety shut-off
valve. Guess which one I bought. I replaced the toilet supply line in
the other bathroom as well because the plastic nut on that one was
cracked too, but hadn't started to leak yet.
Suggestion: inspect those things often!
The neighbor across the street went on a 3-week vacation to come back
to an ice-maker line burst. Ruined the carpeting, flooring, and
basement ceiling, total $16K back in 1996. Insurance covered most of
the cost, but nobody needs the hassle. Some folks turn off the main
water supply before leaving for vacation.
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