On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 06:31:38 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
This is all true, except for the part about "not completely filling the
tank" (that depends on how much gas it takes for the job). But no
matter how careful people are with this stuff, no one is always able to,
or remembers to do all the stuff we're supposed to do. After spending a
few hours out in the cold blowing snow, the last thing I want to do is
poss around with draining gas or adding additives. And it's almost a
guarantee, that once Spring comes, few prople even think about their
It's the same (in reverse) with lawn mowers, chain saws and warm weather
gas engines. I know for fact that if I spend a day cleaning up fallen
trees after a storm, the last thing I want to do is piss around with my
chain saw gas when I'm done. I just want dinner and a couch or bed to
Many people know what we're supposed to do, but we're not all human and
facing life's challenges. Details like this are forgotten or postponed
until it's too late. It's too bad these engines cant automatically
drain their gas and flush out their carbs after use, but that's not
available or practical.
I personally prefer a sturdy (no maintenance) electric snow blower and
the same for chainsaws, weed whackers, etc. As far as lawn mowers go, I
still use gas engines. Chopping up cords is part of the reason, but I
have to mow far beyond the length of most cords anyhow.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:03:29 -0800 (PST), bob_villa
My father had a gas powered snow blower. In warm weather we'd check it,
and it would start right away. We would add gas stabilizer, drain it,
and all the stuff required. As soon as it came time to blow snow, the
damn thing would never start. It almost seemed like it was made to not
start in the cold.
He had that thing in the repair shop numerous times, we rebuilt the carb
more than once too, plus changed the spark plug and other stuff. About
all that thing seemed to do was waste money, while he and myself
shoveled snow. That's when the rest of the family, bought dad an
electric snow blower for Christmas. It worked well, and always ran when
needed. He used it for years, until he was no longer able to clear snow
(due to his health). Then I used it, until it finally burned out, years
later. I'd probably have one now, but I have a farm tractor with a
loader for snow cleanup. About the only thing the tractor cant do is
the porch and a 15 foot sidewalk. I just shovel that little bit....
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:19:07 -0600, email@example.com wrote:
I agree. I like my electric chain saw, my electric lawn mower, electric
weedwacker, electric hedge trimmer, electric drill, electric saw,
electric radio. I never change the oil or fill them up with gas, or
change the spark plug or pull the cord, yet somehow they start.
You think running over the newspaper makes a mess, you want to see
what happens when you run over your tire chains!!!! Had a customer
have that happen the end of last season - took out both shear pins,
and wrapped the cain around the impeller so hard it snapped the drive
belt. Took me about an hour to get the chain out this summer.
Around here (southern Ontario) Shell premium fuel still has no
ethanol in it. All I ever use in my small engines - and the Yamaha has
a fancy fuel shut-off valve that allows you to drain the carb and
lines with a simple twist. I fill the tank and drain the carb when I
put the blower away for the summer.
The mower has a simple fuel shut-off and I just run the carb dry when
I put it away.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:32:57 -0600, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I drilled a small hole in the air-box to accept the little red tube
on the ether can. When it's cold I give it full choke and a little
whiff of starting fluid and it starts on the first or second turn.
Some of us really NEED a 2 stage blower, so electric is out of the
question, even if we were willing to take the chance of chopping up
the power cord. Electric snow shovels are fine for small sidewalks,
porches, and decks.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:19:07 -0600, email@example.com wrote:
Actually better to leave the tank right full than 1/4 or less. No
air-space means no condensation and therefore no water in the gas.
Also means less surface area exposed for evaporation.
Ive seen too many tanks left empty or almost empty for a year at a
time all rusted inside - and the rust dust screws up the carb real
good (and eventually the tank rusts through)
I store my equipment with the tank full (of non ethanol gas) and the
carb drained -
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:17:48 -0500, Stormin Mormon
No. the ice was for exactly the reason he gave. Getting older and
lazier he didn't get the slo[p shovelled, and it froze. That's why he
wants a blower.
It was above freezing here today and everything turned to slop.
Dropping to -20C overnight, so I got out the snowblower (AKA the "slop
pump") andgot rid of all the crap that was going to turn into rocks
and "road turds" overnight. The old Yamaha can blow water 20 feet!!!.
If I had not gone out and moved that crap it would have become an
awfull icy mess overnight. (It will likely still be bad enough in the
morning - I didn't blow the whole block!!!
On 1/12/2015 6:15 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I'm not a "he". I DID get the driveway shoveled every time it snowed
last year. The reason for shopping for a snow blower is to keep the
drive clear and PREVENT it from becoming an ice berg. :o) 8" of wet
snow is heavy damn stuff and I don't need back aches!
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:00:20 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
When I had a '67 Pontiac Catalina with a 385ci engine, it often woudn't
start in cold weather, so I drilled a hole in the fire wall and and made
one in the glove box, and ran some thin clear tubing from the glove box
to the carbureter, with a short piece of polethylend tubing at the
carburetor end of that.
The other end went on a can of ether in the glove box. After that I
never had to get out of the car, and the car started every time.
The engine is mounted on a transmission that drives the wheels and has a
PTO. All implements attach to the PTO:
The idea sounds pretty good but the implementation is strictly Release
It's like they designed it, put it into production, and never fixed any
of the inevitable design bugs - like the starter handle getting wedged
in the engine protector cage (which could be cured by moving one of the
cage bars a quarter of an inch) or the dead-man switch with wires
running outside where then can snag on brush... and a disconnected wire
just quietly disables the dead-man function until the operator finds out
the hard way....
Also, in spite of the idea sounding pretty good (only one engine to
maintain....) the reality is that you can, for instance, get a
pretty-good snow blower for less than the thousand dollars they get for
their single-stage snow thrower attachment whose housing rusted out and
failed completely after about five years of use....and whose replacement
housing was made out of some cheap metal that actually *tore* when it
rubbed up against an obstacle...and wasn't even primed before being
Probably more than you wanted to know..... -)
Same reason I bought a REAL snow blower. If you live where you get 8
inches of heavy stuff do yourself a favour and don't even CPONSIDER a
single stage or electric blower.
Get a Honda, since the Yamahas are not common and the quality and
engineering on so much of the other product out there is suspect.
Get hydrostatic drive too - no slipping friction drive when that wet
slop gets into the machine - and track drive gives traction without
chains to fall off and get gobbled up by the blower (and to rust) and
no tires to keep going flat.
The Honda WILL cost you more than even a Troy-Bilt - but you seldome
get more than what you pay for.
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