I have no prob with sears cordless tools for homeowner use, if you use
them according to the way they were designed.
But the battery pacs just plain SUCK.
They want hold a charge long, just give up the ship to easy. What brand
of cordless tools has a good battery pac for homeowner use?
My son has a Sears cordless set,
circular saw, recip saw, drill and light
this doesn't seem to happen. Sears uses
different voltages that other don't
seem to use, like 19.2 ... I think
that's what his is. He likes his set
I like the 6 1/2" circular saw ... very
quiet and powerful. BTW, I have a DeWalt
18V circular saw, recip saw and
fluorescent light. I've had the
for about 8 years now. I think I like
the Sears circular saw even a little bit
especially because it uses standard 6
1/2" blades and it seems to run very
smooth. My original DeWalt battery,
when fully charged, will still
work, however, not quite as good as the
new batteries I bought when I
bought the recip saw and light, about 1
1/2 years ago. Also, the old battery
will not hold the charge for more that a
week or so of non-use. Maybe you
just have a bad battery. I recently
bought a small cordless screwdriver for\\
taking things apart and its battery was
just plain junk although I haven't replaced
I'm not sure there is one, once the tool is six months or a year old.
'Rechargeable' and 'occasional use' are two things hard to build into
the same tool. It is a lot better than it used to be, but even with
modern batteries, not deep-cycling the tool on a regular basis tends to
lead to degraded performance and short battery life. Cordless tools are
great if you are doing production or making a living with them- the cost
of new batteries or a new tool every 'X' hundred charging cycles is
more than offset by the time savings in not dragging cords around. But
for a tool that gets used in spurts, and then not touched for a month,
not so much. I see lots and lots of 2-3 year old rechargeable stuff at
garage sales and auctions, still shiny, with crapped out batteries. New
packs are either unavailable, or cost almost as much as a new tool.
Other than maybe stuff on deep discount on the remainder table, I don't
plan to buy any more rechargeable tools. I drive a desk for a living
now, so the work I do is so occasional that stringing a cord is not a
On Nov 3, 9:02 am, firstname.lastname@example.org (Rebel Rouser) wrote:
re: ...a good battery pac for homeowner use
I guess it depends on your definition of "homeowner use".
I own a home, thus I'm a homeowner. I've used my cordless tools to
install my own windows, remodel my own bathrooms, build 2 decks, hang
a couple of hundred feet of fence, etc.
Other homeowners may drill one hole year to hang a picture. For that
type of homeowner use, a cordless tool with a short-life battery is
fine. For my type of homeowner use, that won't do.
Search this group as well as rec.woodworking for terms like cordless
drills and cordless tools. Your question has been raised numerous
times and the opinions vary widely.
Myself, I'm a big fan of DeWalt tools, both corded and cordless.
Batteries are the weak point of off cordless tools. They don't last
forever and they are expensive. If you leave them for a long time without
charging them, that does hurt the battery.
Replacement batteries are available and often you can get a better
battery for less by going to a battery supply house rather than to the
original manufacturer brand.
Many times it is cheaper to buy a new tool that comes with the battery
than to replace just the battery, especially with the homeowner lines.
Won't happen. All cordless batter packs go bad after a few years.
My story: Got one of those Xmas cordless drill specials from Sears in the
mid-1990s. Bought a replacement battery pack around 2000 maybe '01. Now
dead again. Very cheap cordless battery drill packaged with two batteries
at W-M place cheaper than 2nd replacement battery in '06. $32.00 for new
drill and batteries, or $56.00 plus shipping for replacement.
Question: I opened up the original battery pack and inside were just off the
shelf Ni-Cad batteries connected together. So, why hasn't someone come up
with a battery pack with a way to just replace the internal batteries. For
example remove four screws, pop the batteries, insert new batteries, reseal
the battery case, and charge it. (and repeat every 4 to 5 years.)
What, H.F. wouldn't sell such a battery packs? China wouldn't make such a
I know, I know, cheaper to build and buy new than repair old.
Because drills draw a higher current,and need a better connection between
cells,thus the welded straps.
For people who only use their cordless drill every couple of months,get a
Li-ion system;they retain a useful charge for about 6 months.
With NiCds,it's basically "use it or lose it".
That makes a lot of sense but cut into profits for the toolmaker.
I sent a couple of battery packs to www.primecell.com and got them back
better than new with a higher AH rating. There are quite a few rebuilders
on 11/3/2007 9:02 AM Rebel Rouser said the following:
My 18v Ryobi batteries just died. I have had them for about 4 years and
used the cordless drill for almost everything. With the new lithium-ion
batteries coming out now, the older types are going on sale. I just
bought a twin pack of 18v Ryobi batteries at HD for $40 ($20 each).
When you say "don't hold a charge long" do you mean that when in use they
run out in the middle of the job or between jobs(days apart) the batts die.
If yer looking for a drill that last longer on the job, then look for batt
spec that state 2.2 or greater amp hr rating. The good guys come with at
least 2.5 amp/hr batts- some oat 3 amp/hr. The nicads and nimh cells both
discharge while not being used. At one time the preferred batt was nicad for
a heavy disharge (at one point the nimhs couldnt handle getting really hot)
I gather that's pretty much over and the majority of makers have goine to
nimh and are now going to lithium chemistry. Pricier yet than the nimh but
better energy density and lighter to boot. Also supposed to hold a charge
for longer periods . The battery chargers for the various battery
types(nicad,nimh and lithium) are not interchangeable unless they
specifically say so. Pat
Ridgid at HD has a lifetime warranty on batteries if you send in the
reciept and barcode. Batteries should not be run dead or overcharged.
Makita, Dewalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee, Bosch all use quality
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