Researching roof materials and ran into a rubber\plastic based product -
Majestic Slate from EcoStar (http://www.premiumroofs.com /). Looks totally
cool and seems like a good idea but how does it compare to the other
materials as far as durability, resistance to diff. conditions, long-term
look, insulation of the roof, and price. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
P.S. This roof material would be used in Seattle
Funny, I was just looking at EcoStar shingles for a friend of mine who
is reroofing. They can look a lot like cedar shakes or slate (depending
on the shingle selected).
Here's the ES report from ICCES.
If you decide on these shingles, insist on their Gold Warranty. Be
prepared to pay $500 - $1000 for it, but the restrictions that the
warranty puts on the installer, on the materials used, and the
installation process will significantly improve the probably of you
getting a good roof.
Note that the standard installation only gets you 70mph wind process.
If you are worried about higher speeds, then I would insist on the
double-sticky-tape installation required for Florida Product Approval:
Good pointer to the ES report. I will visit few houses in the n-hood to see
the roofs. I should also receive samples very shortly. Then I'll check
with local installers about the pricing - it would be interesting to see how
expensive this roof is compared to 'nicer' 3-D compo asphalt shingles or
Let me know what your market price looks like --- here in Florida I've
seen one quote for about $420 / square. Don't know if that is high,
low, or average for this product. I know EcoStar is more expensive than
any other shingle product, but I would have expected it to be cheaper
than cement tile. So far the indications are that it is NOT. Which
surprises me since it is so much easier to install than tile (no bird
stop, no adhesive foam, simple trim work).
Make a note of the conditions of the EcoStar Gold warranty - the
manufacturer requires stainless steel nails for fasteners. I would
guess because there must be some chemical or galvanic reaction between
the shingles and the metal.
I visited 3 house with the slate on. One had a three color combo and looked
so so; I think the roof was too flat and the color... Anyhow the owners
mentioned the cost of installation and materials (plus take down old asphalt
+ put new sheeting and gutters) at $45K for 45 squares. A bit nasty!!!
They went with gold warranty so nails themselves were probably $5K :-))
Two other houses had steep roofs and different shades of gray slate
installed - looked great!!!
I will have about 80 squares to do on steep 12-18 12-10 new roof. I hoped I
could do it for some $60 but I might be low for the Majestic slate. My two
other options are Saxony Slate from MonierLife (I expect it to be expensive
as well) or some sort of nicer 3-D asphalt shingle.
BTW: Majestic Slate rep mentioned the price of the material at either
$150/sq or $250/sq - I think the second is right. This makes me think that
I might not be saving LOTS on material by shifting between the products
unless the installation of different materials carries different costs.
I would think you could do genuine slate for $1K/square! MonierLifeTile
cement tiles shouldn't be more than about $450/square with standard
installation (that's a Florida price and your prices may be higher).
On my last roof (and I mean, my LAST roof) I installed MonierLifeTile
over a custom underlayment, attaching the tiles with a two part epoxy
foam. There are zero exposed holes through the underlayment cap sheet,
thus eliminating a major source of subsurface failure. This
installation had about a 15% premium but I expect it will last at least
40 years (hurricanes, etc. not withstanding). The elements of the
installation included renailing all the sheathing with ring shank nails,
applying a 100% 'ice and water shield' secondary waterproofing layer,
then an inorganic base sheet nailed to sustain 146 mph uplift wind load,
topped with a modified bitumen cap sheet backnailed every six inches. A
formed-in-place concrete bird stop was used on all eaves and the
MonierLifeTile was adhered to the cap sheet with Polyfoam's Polyset
You might want to consider some or all of these features while spending
this kind of money on your roof. After all, you don't want to do this
more than once if you can avoid it. I'd certainly avoid asphalt
shingless since the best you can expect is about 15 years, regardless of
installation method. And IMHO they look bad after about five.
If you want to consider a REAL premium roofing job, check out Japanese
ceramic tiles. I've seen a few of these in upscale communities - I
think the tile price is about $500 a square, perhaps lower for tiles
made in China. A bargain when compared to chewed up rubber tires at
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