not in the kits? show me one screwdriver bit kit with more than 16 different bits kit that DOESNT have one....? although lots of them simply call them square heads, square tip, u get the idea.
im not trying to argue, i mean i dont know what you've seen and havent seen. but im tellin ya, they put them in lots of the kits. same with torx bits.
ya they are sized 1,2, etc.. like phillips.
randy
they got em in france...
randy
Not true. Robertson screws have been used in Canada for well over sixty years. Apparently Henry Ford was interested in them for his assembly line but wanted full and exclusive ownership of the design. Robertson, the inventor, would not go for that and as a consequence Ford declined to use them. Then along came the Phillips design and it became the American sweetheart because it was invented by an American and was somewhat superior to the common slotted screw.
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Robertson is a brand (and company) name -- they are the only ones allowed to use that name. Now that the original patent has expired, anyone can build screws and screwdrivers, but they still have no choice but to use a generic term such as "square drive".
For what it's worth, I still buy Robertson brand tools and screws whenever possible -- their quality is excellent. Lots of knock-off "square drive" screwdrivers (and screws) are complete junk.
What do you mean by overpriced? Sure, they cost more, but you get more, Better, larger bearings, better motors, lots of things not visible just looking at the outside of the case. You won't find a pro doing good work with a B & D jig saw, he'll probably have a Bosch or Milwaukee that cuts smoother, has faster blade changes, last longer. Most homeowners don't need that. Your 25 y ears of use may be what a prod does in a couple of weeks.
I have one that proudly states it is 250 mm. It is about 10" long.
You are correct, most do not NEED higher priced tools, I just enjoy using higher quality tools, it makes the job a bit more enjoyable.
My Dad has a 25-30 year old B&D jig saw, good sturdy tool. My Bosch jig saw is smoother, quieter, cuts faster, and therefore a much nicer tool to use. Did I NEED a Bosch jig saw, hell no! I wanted one though! In fact I owned it over a year before I even used it! Greg
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I think he was referring to the threads, not the wrench size to put them in. IIRC, when Henry the First was setting up shop, there were no US spark plug makers, so he had little choice but to use metric. Since he was the 800 pound gorilla, that is what the industry standardized on. I could be wrong, of course, but I'm sure someone smarter than me will post the correct story.
aem sends...
Actually, it's not so much imperialism as capitalism. We're secretly plotting to let your economy continue as it is now for another ten years, then we'll step in and buy the whole country for $89 U.S.
Of course, maybe y'all will beat us to the punch with your secret plot to reduce us to confusion by absorbing all our liberals, eh?
Who *cares* whether the threads are metric, Imperial, or some bastard size? It's not like you put anything *else* into the spark plug port in a cylinder head, where you have to know what the thread diameter and pitch are... buy the recommended plug for your engine, and that's all you need.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
And engines; e.g. 3.5 litre gasoline, 7 Litre Caterpillar Diesel etc. and metric tonnes, and .............! Ah well; we'll catch on in another generation or so!
Robertson (square) drives must be catching on? It was only a few years ago that a friend, manager/owner of a company that manufactured and shipped power equipment told me that certain US specs for his equipment clearly required "All screws must be Philips or Straight".
Personally have always found Robertsons convenient and powerful; possible to put a screw on the end of the square driver and apply it with one hand at almost any angle including straight down, horizontal etc. Recent convert to using construction screws and a power/drill driver. Robertsons work very well.
Somewhat? Ever try to start a slotted head wood screw without a pilot hole? With a power driver? With one hand? Every slotted head screw I come across is scrapped. I don't have ONE to my name.
I notice that Tim Bits are now available in some areas of the USA.
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How 'bout 15+ pounds of Phillips? At least!
Yup! And the Robertson is superior to the Phillips probably as much as the Phillips is to the slotted, IMHO. That's why anything I buy that includes Phillips head screws for assembly has them replaced with Robertsons. I can probably make you a good deal if your interested in buying a coffee can full of assorted Phillips head screws. ;)
You dont have a lot of anything to your name. Next time you want to start a sloted head wood screw, use that usless melon on top of that thing you call a neck. Have someone slam it against the screwhead. Maybe something will bust you bonehead. Bubba
Phillips did a good job designing his cross slotted screws, but they he was never able to expand that technology in the marketplace. Every try the cross bladed Phillips snow shovel?
I know you're just a troll baiting a flame war, but I can't resist... apologies in advance to all US non-trolls, please disregard.
Have you looked at the US debt per capita lately and compared it to Canada's? In a few years "y'all" be lucky to afford a double-double at the local Tim's in downtown Little Rock. But by then Bin Laden will have resurfaced and will be running for Governor of Kansas, so who knows.
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