Rewring a chandelier: snaking wires through the arms

I am trying to rewire a 5 arm brass chandelier. The original wiring is 16 ga stranded wire which was hard wired to the fixtures (several of which are defective which is why I am rewiring).
One end of the arm has a straight run from the entry hole but then there's a sharp bend which I can't negotiate by pushing the wire. If I start from the other end (which has an immediate 90 degree turn through a narrow hole) I am able to push one stranded conductor completely through the arm, but I am unable to get the second conductor to get past the 90 degree turn. I've tried doing this using the original wiring (which I plan to replace).
I've tried 2 conductor lamp wire but that's too wide. I've tried using conduit lube but that doesn't seem to help. I don't have any 18 ga stranded wire on hand, but the diameter of stranded wire including its jacket appears not to vary with gauge.
Is there some trick I am missing here?
thanks
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snipped-for-privacy@physics.brown.edu wrote:

Sounds like it's a pretty tight fit.
A couple suggestions:
Can you take the arms apart somehow? Sometimes it's more than one piece threaded together.
If you can get one one wire or string or anything through the arm, then use that to pull your two wires through. The key to that working will be to figure out a way to attach your two wires to your pulling wire in a way that doesn't increase the diameter of the connection too much. To do this, you may want to strip the insulation off the ends of your two wires before you connect to the pulling wire. That way you are just dealing with the diameter of the wire itself, rather than the diameter including the insulation where you make the connection for pulling.
Ken
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diameter I had laying around. It was stiff enough to be pushed through the brass arms of the chandelier I was rewiring but flexible enough to make the tight turns in the arms.
I put a small ball of solder at the forward end just so the wire didn't catch as it traveled. I sprayed teflon based lube into the arms every turn or 2 to keep things going.
Worked like a charm.
Jon
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Pelcovits,
Some fishing line, a small weight, and gravity should help you to put strings through all of the arms. I'm assuming the chandelier is removed from the ceiling. Use the strings to pull the wires through.
Good luck, Dave M.
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snipped-for-privacy@physics.brown.edu wrote:

Use the existing wire to pull a string or a thin flexible wire then use that to pull the real thing...don't need to push.
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snipped-for-privacy@physics.brown.edu wrote:

Yes.
Tie a knot in some butchers' twine and blow it in with compressed air.
Or... tie a knot in some butchers' twine and suck it through with a powerful vacuum.
Buy a micro-mouse and some cheese?
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snipped-for-privacy@physics.brown.edu wrote:

I use very high heat (200 degree C IIRC) 16ga wire which not only has a very thin insulation but it also seems slippery. Apart from being easier to pass through the arms it will also withstand almost any heat build up. I don't know where you'd buy this normally--a lamp rewiring place I suppose since it's made specifically for that purpose. I bought a quantity ten years ago from Grand Brass in NYC. They have a website.
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On 31 Oct 2005 07:44:51 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@physics.brown.edu wrote:

Conduit lube! I guess I have to get out more.

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