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I wanted to give some feedback on a good product.
HD/DTV/UHF/VHF/FM 360° Motorized Rotating Antenna
QFX Model: ANT-105
http://www.qfxusa.com/ItemDetail.cfm?ItemIDy8
Many of the over the air broadcast stations are 20 - 30 miles from my resid ence.
Which required me to rotate my Terk antenna to as many as 3 different posit ions.
After experimenting with several positions of the antenna, I found one that pulled in good signals for about 60 stations.
The instruction manual was seriously lacking and I contacted the company ab out it.
I had to drill 2 holes in the aluminum part to complete the installation.
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy

I never heard of that brand name, QFX. Where are they sold?
It sounds like you could use an antenna rotor. I live in the country, and I have a rotor. The nearest stations around here are 50 miles away, (except PBS, which is 22 miles). I bought an antenna from Menards, about 12 years ago. It was their second best (costly) model. The most costly one was very pricey and seemed like it would require an actual tower becuse of it's size, rather than use a simple mast. I dont recall the brand name, but I have been real satisfied with it. I have gotten stations as far as 90 miles, but they are sporadic at that distance. But those at about 50 miles come in well.
However, without my rotor, I could only get stations from one region, and there are large cities in three different locations. I put marks on my rotor control for the best signal for each of the 3 locations.
I get at least 50 stations, as long as I change the rotor, but most of the time I leave it set, pointing to the nearest city (50 miles), and they have all the channels I like the best. Probably get about 30 channels. But sometimes I cant get something like a football game, so I turn the rotor.
Rotors are sort of outdated, but they do work well, and are not all that expensive. But for city folks, I guess antennas are sort of outdated too. Personally, I would not pay for cable tv even if I did have it available. What I get on my antenna is plenty for me, and dont cost anything.
I DO have an antenna amplifier too, and it's mounted right on the antenna. That makes a huge difference in signal strength.
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On 12/21/2015 11:38 PM, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moc wrote:

What part of "360° Motorized Rotating Antenna" did you not get? :)
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wrote:

Guess I missed that !!! :)
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:46:51 -0800 (PST), Andy

Where exactly do you live?

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On 12/21/2015 11:46 PM, Andy wrote:

Advertising copy like this:
"The QFX ANT-105 provides full-band DTV/VHF/UHF/FM reception while the built-in motor rotates 360° for optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution— allowing owners to view digital channels on their HDTVs in stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast."
makes me think the product is total bullshit.
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wrote:

The antenna is shit with a 10 dB amp hooked to it. I had one. You would do as well with a coat hanger. Do yourself a favor and go to MCM.com and buy a real antenna.
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wrote:

I think the OP was spamming to draw attention to his website. Just my opinion! I dont see this antenna as having much to offer, but for $35 one cant expect much. Heck, my antenna amplifier cost more than that. I probably paid 10X that amount for my entire antenna system, (antenna, mast setup, amplifier, rotor, and all the cables & wires), but it works well, and beats paying a monthly bill for a tv service. (cable or satellite).
I get a laugh out of the advertising for all antennas these days. Especially those "magic" ones they advertise on tv. They make it sound like you can suddenly get FREE tv, as if this is something new. This may work for the young generation who have never known anything more than cable or satl. tv. But any of us who have been around for decades know that there was a time when the ONLY way to get a tv signal was to have some sort of antenna, and it was always available for free, as long as we deal with their commercials.
What really gets me, is their ads make it sound like getting "optimal reception at 1080p, 1080i, and 720p resolution", requires some sort of special antenna. The truth is that the antenna dont see it as 1080 or 720 reso. It just brings in the signal that the station is sending. As long as the signal is good, it all depends on the tv itself, whether it has "stunning detail, vibrant colors, and sharp contrast" or is 1080 or 720 reso. My antenna was designed for analog tv, since it's around 12 years old. They still sell the same antennas today, but now the box says it's for "Digital" and for "HDTV".
What HAS changed, is that most tv signals are now UHF. Few still use VHF. So, some of the VHF elements on the older antennas are really not needed anymore. Thus, antennas could be made smaller and still be as powerful....
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:23:25 -0600, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moc wrote:

His claim that he gets 60 channels well sounded false to me. And his failure to reply where he lived. It would only take 20 stations with 3 channels each, but I don't think that much is available anywhere. Especially if you don't count shopping channels, spanish channels (unless you speak Spanish), duplicate channels.

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I'll stick with my suspicion that he was spamming. I have not seen any other posts from that user name, and he has not posted back. Just a cheap way to spam. I doubt the 60 channels too. I get about 25 from one location, and thats counting 10.1 10.2 and 10.3 as three channels. And I get the PBS channels twice (duplicated from two locations). I get one analog channel which is rarely in use, but always has a carrier. And I get some "audio only" *weird* channel. No picture, just sound. I dont get any shopping channel, but do get some "religious" channel which appears to be mostly a money making scam.
When I rotate my antenna, I get *one additional network*. The other channels are the same as the ones in my prior location, just the news is different, and sometimes the commercials. But that location is further so I dont get as many channels. Then there's a 3rd location, which is pretty sparce do to the extreme distance.
Overall, I get about 20 USEFUL channels regularly, and 3 or 4 more that only come in occasionally. This does not count the duplicated ones from other locations, or the audio only or worthless ones I mentioned above.
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 06:43:06 -0600, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moc wrote:

Well sure. 3 seems the only number to me.

No kidding?

I've never gotten that either.
I get a weather channel, but it's nationwide weather, and I might care about the weather where my brother is, or somewhere else, but I don't care about every part of the country at the same time. To wait until it gets to my area takes too long.

I think I get 2 shopping channels but no religious ones. I can make t he scanning stop ony at certain channels but on this dvdr, if I allow 14, for example, then it has to include 14 point all of them, including the spanish channel.

I get more than that, counting real stations even though I don't watch them, but not 60.
<nd 3 or 4 more that

Only because weak stations don't usually show, right? Not even badly, so y ou don't know to turn up the amp. Other than that, why would it be different. BTW, I've never gotten that afaik.
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Micky wrote: ", right? Not even badly, so y ou don't know to turn up the amp."
No antenna worth the metal it's made of needs an "amp". Build enough gain into the antenna itself and you won't need to add a noisemaker to it.
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An amp mounted at the antenna can sometimes help. It is difficult to make an anetenna large enough to have enough gain to overcome a long coax run. Even the rg-6 coax has a large loss at the digital frequencies. If the signal is not amplified at or near the antenna, the amp may not help.
Sometimes a low gain antenna is wanted because the patern will be larger. That way the antenna will not need to be rotated. Then the amp will help out in that case.
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 09:58:49 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"

My antenna amplifier is not noisy at all. I get excellent picture and sound. It's mounted right at the antenna. My nearest tv stations (except PBS) are all at least 50 miles away. Without the amp, I only got half the stations I get with it. It was not real costly, I think it was around $40 or $45. Well worth the cost!
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PaintedCow wrote: "My antenna amplifier is not noisy at all. I get excellent picture and sound. It's mounted right at the antenna. My nearest tv stations (except PBS) are all at least 50 miles away. Without the amp, I only got half "
Make/model of your antenna?
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 07:09:48 -0800 (PST), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Dont know. I bought it over 10 years ago. Same with the amplifier. If there are labels in them, I'm not climbing up on the roof to look in freezing weather. They work and work well, thats all that matters. I did buy the ant, amp, and rotor at Menards. Thats all I remember.
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Ralph Mowery:
Sorry. Just that I'm more conservative(in a common-sense way) about technical matters than certain members of Congress are about everything else(!). That's why I push big-ol jet airliner shaped antennas whenever someone I know wants to go OTA, instead of those weird shaped $19.95 price-point profit leaders.
I'm s'damn conservative I still have a Pro- Logic surround receiver at the heart of my entertainment system! Why? Modern receivers don't have enough analog(rca) inputs to connect all of my *perfectly- functional-analog-audio-sources-thank- you-verymuch!* to them. There's more HID-ME jacks on the back than I know what do do with. lolol!
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Ralph Mowery:
Sorry. Just that I'm more conservative(in a common-sense way) about technical matters than certain members of Congress are about everything else(!). That's why I push big-ol jet airliner shaped antennas whenever someone I know wants to go OTA, instead of those weird shaped $19.95 price-point profit leaders.
I'm s'damn conservative I still have a Pro- Logic surround receiver at the heart of my entertainment system! Why? Modern receivers don't have enough analog(rca) inputs to connect all of my *perfectly- functional-analog-audio-sources-thank- you-verymuch!* to them. There's more HID-ME jacks on the back than I know what do do with. lolol!
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Ralph Mowery:
Sorry. Just that I'm more conservative(in a common-sense way) about technical matters than certain members of Congress are about everything else(!). That's why I push big-ol jet airliner shaped antennas whenever someone I know wants to go OTA, instead of those weird shaped $19.95 price-point profit leaders.
I'm s'damn conservative I still have a Pro- Logic surround receiver at the heart of my entertainment system! Why? Modern receivers don't have enough analog(rca) inputs to connect all of my *perfectly- functional-analog-audio-sources-thank- you-verymuch!* to them. There's more HID-ME jacks on the back than I know what do do with. lolol!
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:10:55 -0800 (PST), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Not just here but everywhere it woudl help if you would quote more of the previous post.

How much experience have you had with stations 30, 40, 50 miles away?
Amplifiers work well and are often the best possible method of getting such stations.
Even if I could duplicate what I have now by buying an antenna twice the size and mounting it on a 30 foot mast , why would I do that when I can get the same result with a maybe iirc $30 amplifier?
And I don't get any noise. I didn't with analog and I certainly don't with digital.
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