recently a strong (very strong) T-storm passed in my area and managed to
damage the gate. the screws that held the deck gates were stripped out
hinges, the screws were also lost. don't know what happened to them.
I didn't build the gate. the gate uses spring hinges.
I'm thinking I should get some bolts/nuts instead of screws. what do
here are the pics
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:55:36 -0500, dilbert firestorm
You can fill the old holes with glued in dowel or even toothpicks.
Drill pilots and put wood screws back in.
Maybe longer than what was in there.
Sure, you can use bolts but you'll get catch points on the other side,
and they'll rust on.
Screws should work fine.
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:04:29 -0500, dilbert firestorm
Never used it for anything that will be under stress so I can't say.
Done plenty of hinge screw holes with toothpicks, bigger holes with
With toothpicks I don't even bother with glue.
Just tap them in the hole with a hammer, getting as many as you can in
there. They'll break off with the hammer and you can hammer flat what
still sticks out. Shave with a blade or file if the hammer doesn't do
it all. It's behind the hinge and as long as the hinge beds good
you're okay. Just drill deep enough to get the screw going in
straight. Think that gate is pine so if you use longer screws don't
even worry about drilling beyond that.
But if it's hard wood drill your pilot hole to the screw length.
I can't access the pictures at work but...
Are the holes in the hinges big enough for Lag screws? Could they be
drilled to handle them?
Lag screws would have beefier threads than screws and wouldn't leave
anything sticking out on the other side of the post.
is they probably take in 1/4" screws.
I'll have to get some lag screws from home depot and see if they fit.
the spring hinge in question are usually made for screen doors. I have
one like that on the screen door.
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They don't have to fit off the shelf as long as you have enough
material on the hinge to drill the hole big enough so that they *do*
Make sure you pre-drill the posts for the lags. Unless you get Grade 8
lags you run the danger of snapping the heads off depending on how
hard the posts are.
That type of hinge is usually used for lightweight screen doors. You
might consider replacing them with hinges made for gates - on the gate
side they have a long tongue that gets a better grip on the gate.
Also known as a T hinge. see, e.g., http://www.hooverfence.com/woodfence/plaint.htm
type of hinge. I had reservations about it, for one thing its a heavy
gate, vinyl gate should've been put there.
About 6 months after the carpenter built the gate, the hinges eventually
came off the gates. When I went to fix it, the carpenter who built it
didn't have a lick of sense. He used small length screws He did,
however, used at 4 long length screws on each hinge. I did find some
longer length screws, I think they were 1" long and replaced all small
length screws and fixed the hinges.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:26:54 -0500, dilbert firestorm
I tend to agree, since he also ran the crossbrace wrong. Should run
from down on the hinge side, to up on the opening side. Eventually,
as is, the gate itself may sag, and as is, the crossbrace won't help
The cross brace is correct as it is. They should run from top inside corner
to bottom outside corner. Their purpose is to help transfer weight to the
hinge post to help prevent sagging at the bottom outside.
Closest to correct answer. Wrong hinges for the job, way undersized for
a gate that heavy. T-hinges may work, but finding enough flat spots on
gate to attach to may be a problem. I'd be inclined to use farm-style
drop-in hinges, where you bold a loop to to post, and an L-shaped piece
to the gate, whereby the pins drop into the hole. Note that with heavier
hinges, may need to make the gate a tad narrower, which doesn't look
like a big deal. Go to nearest farm supply or fence store- they will
have a whole aisle of possibilities. Print the pictures and take them
with you, and look for the clerk with the grayest hair to help you- one
look at the pictures and they can point you to the right item.
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