Rebuilding in Moore, OK

During the flood of news coverage regarding the tornado in Moore, OK, they have said over and over that they will rebuild. I can understand their need to rebuild, but somehow their plans dont make much sense to me.

They have had 3 major tornados in that town during the past 14 years. I believe the dates were 1999, 2003, and 2013. The tv coverage showed the paths of these three tornados, and all of them crossed the same points.

There is a saying that says "three strikes and you're out". Yes, these people need to rebuild, BUT NOT AT THAT SAME LOCATION. It appears that location is a crossroads for tornados. Sure, a tornado can hit anywhere, but for some reason, this particular place seems to be the spot where they occur repeatedly. It's just not a safe place to build. They need to relocate that whole town elsewhere. This is no different than towns along rivers that flood every few years, and many such towns are forced to relocate by local or federal government. Moore should be no different. Actually, the people should now know to do so. How many times will they have to rebuild and how many more lives must be lost before they come to their senses.

Seeing the buildings that were destroyed, it's obvious that they can not build any structure strong enough to exist in that place. Many of the buildings were constructed of concrete and steel, and even those did not survive. No building can be built strong enough to survive storms like that. Why even try to rebuild in that same location.

I'm no expert on storms or the terrain of that area, but there must be some reason that that terrain and/or atmosphere keep demolishing that same place. That town just needs to be moved. The homes which survived should be moved, and those that were destroyed need to be built elsewhere. Oklahoma is a fairly large state, there must be somewhere else to move that town, not too far away, but in a safer place. Then the current location should be turned back to crop land or forests and never lived on again. It's just common sense!

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repairs
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Ask the insurance companies. Or the banks.

If the insurance companies refuse to insure new homes, then they can't get mortgages.

If the insurance companies adjust the risk appropriately for that location, then it would be financially foolish to rebuild.

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Home Guy

Wish our elected representatives had common sense. That sure is refreshing.

They have had 3 major tornados in that town during the past 14 years. I believe the dates were 1999, 2003, and 2013. The tv coverage showed the paths of these three tornados, and all of them crossed the same points.

There is a saying that says "three strikes and you're out". Yes, these people need to rebuild, BUT NOT AT THAT SAME LOCATION. It appears that location is a crossroads for tornados. Sure, a tornado can hit anywhere, but for some reason, this particular place seems to be the spot where they occur repeatedly. It's just not a safe place to build. They need to relocate that whole town elsewhere. This is no different than towns along rivers that flood every few years, and many such towns are forced to relocate by local or federal government. Moore should be no different. Actually, the people should now know to do so. How many times will they have to rebuild and how many more lives must be lost before they come to their senses.

Seeing the buildings that were destroyed, it's obvious that they can not build any structure strong enough to exist in that place. Many of the buildings were constructed of concrete and steel, and even those did not survive. No building can be built strong enough to survive storms like that. Why even try to rebuild in that same location.

I'm no expert on storms or the terrain of that area, but there must be some reason that that terrain and/or atmosphere keep demolishing that same place. That town just needs to be moved. The homes which survived should be moved, and those that were destroyed need to be built elsewhere. Oklahoma is a fairly large state, there must be somewhere else to move that town, not too far away, but in a safer place. Then the current location should be turned back to crop land or forests and never lived on again. It's just common sense!

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Rebuild should be steel reinforced concrete buildings......

They can be made to look like normal buildings but be strong enough to withstand 300 MPH winds

hey rebuid if you want but heres the new building code.....

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bob haller

They can be made to look like normal buildings but be strong enough to withstand 300 MPH winds

hey rebuid if you want but heres the new building code.....

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Exactly what I was about to say.

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recyclebinned

A building expert on the radio this morning talked about making homes tornado resistant. Affordable buildings using wood beams and studs can be designed to withstand winds of 200 mph or so using proper construction and such things as straps and clips to keep the roof on and the walls standing. Winds of 300 mph destroy everything above ground and the wood itself shatters in wood structure buildings. The expert agreed that an old-fashioned storm cellar would be a good way to keep a family safe and then if more space was wanted to preserve belongings, a reinforced basement was next.

Tomsic

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Do casinos remove #23 on the roulette wheel if it gets hit three times in three years?

"There *MUST* be some reason!" Maybe there are sinners living in those areas.

Reply to
krw

There is a difference between 200mph straight line winds and a tornado. Forget it. It's not reasonable to "tornado proof" any structure. Build an underground shelter and pick up the pieces later.

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krw

In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, snipped-for-privacy@workshop.com belched:

If your house/home was hit by lighting and burnt to the ground, would you move or rebuild? How many times do the wackos in Californication have to be burned out or washed away by mudslides, earthquakes before they move? Do you understand what a home means to some people? Obviously not

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ChairMan

I?m a builder and I would trust placing my dearest granddaughter in a F5 tornado as long as I designed and built the structure. The structure wouldn ?t be made of wood and it wouldn?t be cheap. What people need to realiz e is that it is simply too expensive to build in certain areas; but as long as you can afford a whole lot of concrete and steel then have at it.

Reply to
recyclebinned

Why bother?

Is that a question?

Sure, but lefties always like to spend OPM.

Reply to
krw

You just *must* dance on the graves of the tornado victims, don't you? Typical lefty.

Reply to
krw

tornado as long as I designed and built the structure. The structure wouldn?t be made of wood and it wouldn?t be cheap. What people need to realize is that it is simply too expensive to build in certain areas; but as long as you can afford a whole lot of concrete and steel then have at it.

In a structure? You're crazy!

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krw

If everyone built their house out of concrete and steel, you would likely have fewer neighbors since substantially fewer people would be able to afford to live there (or anywhere).

But still only two tornadoes following this path over all the years of recorded history. I'd probably ask about topography NOW, but hardly something that would have come up prior to earlier this week.

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Kurt Ullman

Not two, but three. 1999, 2003, 2013. The 99 and current one were both very severe, the current one was an F5, The 99 one was either F4 or F5 (I forgot what they said). The 2003 one was serious but smaller.

Reply to
repairs

It's just common sense!

"Everybody's got to be somewhere".

Reply to
Fat-Dumb and Happy

You'd lose very few neighbors due to cost. It can be done for about 5% over regular construction. I know people that build them and have had homes built with ICFs. You also save on energy costs for the life of the house.

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Ed Pawlowski

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