Reasonable Price for set of 3 steps, was : Replace Dangerous Side Steps.

I apologize for post>

>And I guess there are only two risers, but isn't the distance from the >>top step to the door sill an important distance too, and it seems as >>high as the second riser. > >Riser from top step to second step is 9". (It's only supposed to be >6".) Bottom riser is 6".

And there is an additional step up to the door sill, and it looked like about 9 inches too.

6 + 9 + 9 = 24 / 4 = 6 would be good

So that would mean three steps before the sill instead of the two you have now.

>A picture is truly worth a thousand words. >> >>>Hope you will check out these pictures and give your >>>input. So far, I only have one bid for wood steps and >>>hand rail,which is fine with me. (see earlier in this thread).

I thought this was an additional bid since the thread started. The guy is asking 4600 for WOOD steps!!!!! I rarely hire anyone to do anything, but that strikes me as ridiculous to the absurd. Is he making them out of ebony and teak?

Wood steps he can mostly build at home and assemble at your place! Plus removal of the old steps.

I see below it is a she. Same comments.

>And was that a reasonable price? Less than your grant? Including I >>suppose removal of the first steps. Which I suppose requires breaking >>them up first, a nothing job for someone who owns an electric jack >>hammer, but more work for someone who has to rent one or do it some >>other way. > >As I posted earlier, my grant was for $4000, and the only bid I >received was $625 over. I asked the City if they could up the grant; >am awaiting reply.

I don't think they should, but maybe they have a list of fairly priced contractors and carpenters.

The only bidder hasn't replied to my follow-up query, so she must have >decided she's not interested.

Maybe she doesn't want to remove the old heavy steps?

*******That's why I originally posted on this NG -- asking where I >could look for a contractor/handman other than the Yellow Pages.*****

How did those suggestions turn out?

> >>>TIA for your advice. >> >>Your bid might be fine. Is it for two steps or three? I don't have a >>computer tape measure, but it seems like you need 3. > >Most definitely.

>If one is shorter than the others, shouldn't it be the lowest step? >>Or if it is custom made, will they be the same, even though that might >>make each less than standard? People do standard height steps without >>thinking. > >If custom made -- seems like the only option -- they should be the >same. >> >>I have maybe the least experience in many things of anyone here, but >>on a good day I have ideas, some zany, and many questions. Here, I >>wonder if you can buy a pre-fab 3step cement steps, and how much prep >>has to be done to put it in place. > >I doubt strongly if such a thing exists!

They certainly have 2-step prefab cement steps, and I'd be surpirsed if they didn't have 3-step, but I said I wonder, to encourage others to reply. **

With my news reader and the settings I use, this thread is 1000 posts up from the bottom and I have to hunt for it, but another guy said that with his newsreader, all new posts come to the fore. But no one else is posting on this thread but you and me, so I may violate some rule and post this here and again at the bottom with a slightly different thread name. Look for both.

BTW for me to do this, I can't just change the Subject and post. I have to start a blank post and copy the text into it. Otherwise there is hidden information (in the References header) that will keep the posts in the same thread even if the Subject changes, if that switch is on in Agent, and probably under some circumstances in other news clients.

> And will it sink, when lighter wooden steps won't. I would think >that neither would sink, given that your current steps have packed the >earth down very well. > >Agreed! After all these decades (I am the 2nd owner) it should be! >> >>And what kind of nice railing could be built for prefab cement steps. >> >>And I think wood will require painting every few years, but what bout >>that "wood" from recycled plastic they use for decks these days. A >>little more expensive but no maintenance required. >. >[...] > >>Because this group gets so much traffic, this post was pretty high up >>from the bottom, and often I don't see followups that are this far up. >>With Agent and maybe other pprograms, even if you start a new thread >>with the new thread button, if it is called by the same Subject, it >>will thread together and I still will see it only way high up. I call >>it the Psychology of Computers, when I try to figure out how programs >>I have never used work with my email and news posts. > >Do you receive your posts "threaded" by Subject, or by Date?

The first post in every thread is in order by date, and the rest of each thread follows immediately after the first. When I collapse all the threads, I see only first posts and they are in order by date, oldest first.

But I can change how long posts are kept, so when posts get old and get deleted, that changes the first post in the thread and the whole thread gets sorted to be further down. If a long time has gone by, there can be a late-arriving post that shows up at the very bottom!

And I can Keep posts so they never disappear. And other features.

Oh, I see you use Agent also.

If by Date, mine should be near the top.

Why do you say that? I probably keep posts longer than you do so for me this thread is in the middle.

In other groups I save posts for 2 or 3 years. In this one because there is so much traffic, and because I dl all the bodies, I can only save about 2000 posts at a time (without asking for help. There is probably a way to increase something and save more), but for some reason the earliest non=Kept post I have is about 16 days old. That would be only 100 and something per day and we get more than that, so I don't get it, but don't have time to figure it out now.

Because it's still sorted by the first post in the thread, this thread is about in the middle.

If "threaded", all you have to do is click on the + and it will >unthread the posts to that Subject.

Yeah I know. I see you are using Agent also. I looked at version 2 but didn't like its appearance iirc. I like to keep all threads with "unread" posts expanded.

Thanks for your interest and help. > >aspasia

**She would need a helper to deliver them, maybe 2 helpers. Otoh, if you bought them, the place you bought them would certainly deliver them and would come with a helper or a maybe a portable fork-lift or whatever worked.

If the old steps were gone when they arrived, you could probably tip them 20 or 30 or 50 dollars and they'd deliver the steps to where they should be. Maybe that's not so good because you'd still have to find someone to remove the old steps, and someway to get in between the two steps. Wooden boxes? I forget what exactly your physical shape is like now.