Rabbit Rifle Info needed

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

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Now that is a well-written law. "other weapon, or throws" There is no wiggle room for longbows, slingshots-- or even atlatl's or boomerangs.

And if there isn't-- then no-no would know.<g>
Jim
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Jim wrote:

This is adequate:
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0013559210385a.shtml
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That looks nice, even has an illuminated red dot scope, adding a Laser would top it off. Illuminated red dot sights really make it easier to see the target.
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Some years ago, my father's friend Vic got tired of the squirrel in his feeder. As, I remember Dad telling the story. Vic used to be a machinist. He is a vetran of world war II. He died, some years ago. So, Vic's answer was to get his .22 rifle, and shoot the squirrel. Another squirrel came along, and also met his death. Vic gave up, after the 300th squirrel.
Folks will suggest various air, spring, or rimfire guns. Many people will have excellent ideas. To those, I wish to add the suggestion of trying to find a use for a continuing stream of dead rabbits. For, there will not be just one or two. Perhaps you can add "mystery meat" to the casseroles you give to widows and orphans? Perhaps you can clean them, and sell the pelts to companys that sell rabbits feet for luck charms, or makes blankets?
It may be a bit less noisy outdoors, if you keep the muzzle a foot or so inside the house when you squeeze em off. Telescope sight. Bench rest. Some internet research. Maybe brain shots. Set up a target in the garden, and adjust your scope. Since the range will be essentially the same each time, from the window to the garden.
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On Dec 31 2009, 10:07 am, "Stormin Mormon"

Hey, they're selling freeze dried rabbit ears as doggie treats now.
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On Dec 31 2009, 11:07 am, "Stormin Mormon"

A few years back, a series of drought years brought the squirrels out of the woods and onto our bird feeder. I put out two Have-A-Heart traps and it was a rare day when I didn't catch a pair. I'd drive them across the river on the way to work the next morning and drop them off in a deserted area. I kept track of this activity and after transporting 70+ squirrels, I'd had enough. The next Saturday morning, I saw a squirrel in the yard and dropped him with the 20 gauge. That afternoon, I shot another. After that, we didn't see a squirrel for months.
I guess word gets around in the squirrel community. At first, they knew they could get a good meal at my place, followed by a fun ride across the river. Then they heard it was dangerous out there and stuck to the woods.
We live out in a semi-rural area. If we hear a shot nearby, we figure one of the neighbors had good cause to shoot something and is skilled enough that we don't have to worry about stray shots.
Paul
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Pavel314 wrote:

Sure it wasn't the same couple of squirrels, over and over? Mice, you have to take at least a mile. Racoon, several miles. (Buddy of mine at work got curious, and painted the tails of the ones he caught before he took them 2-3 miles. Back within 48 hours. He said the hell with being nice, and shot them.) I imagine squirrels fall someplace in the middle.
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Then a .22 is most likely illegal to fire in your yard. An air rifle may also be, depending on what city. In some places rabbits are considered pests and you can kill them at will and in others you may need a hunting license. A little research is probably in order.
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Walter R. wrote:

With all the talk of air guns and firearms, did you ever consider an electric fence? Zap the cute cuddly little fuzzy bunnies! Fry them till their eyes pop out! Burn em, burn em, burn em! Kill one and put its head on a little pike to scare off all the other bunnies. Perhaps crucify one of them in front of the other bunnies as a warning.
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On 12/30/2009 7:13 PM, Walter R. wrote:

I have a Diana (RWS) model 34, and it's hell on wabbits. I wish I had bought one in .22 instead of a .177, because it usually doesn't kill them as quickly and humanely as I'd like. I probably need to try some hollow-point pellets (like Beeman Crow-Magnums) so they'll do more damage instead of punching a little hole all the way thru the beast.
Anyway, it's a single-cocker; breaks open like a single-shot shotgun. Pull the barrel *all* the way down to cock the spring and set the trigger. Much more powerful than a pump-up, like a Benjamin or Sheridan. (I have one of those too that I bought 40 years ago)
Bob
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Walter R. wrote:

Your neighbors will not be alarmed at a .22 discharge. Studies show that a single shot generates a WTF? moment, then people go back to peeling carrots or whatever. Multiple shots do, however, result in official responses.
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Be careful. In some metropolitan areas, there are sound towers that can triangulate gunfire. Response is automatic. I know there are several in the LA area. One shot here and there might not bring immediate response, but it could create a pattern they might investigate. I'd get a good pellet gun.
Steve
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another option; he could buy a .22,and go through the NFA process to buy a suppressor and have it fitted to his rifle/handgun. (AKA "silencer")
fingerprints,background check,$200 tax,and OK from local LEO....IF your state permits them. ....and random inspections from ATF.(F-Troop)
A good PreChargedPneumatic(PCP) 9mm air rifle would end up being less costly. 8-)
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Jim Yanik wrote:

Suppressors are over-rated. The noise from a gun firing comes from two places: The powder detonation and the sonic-boom.
You simply cannot suppress the powder explosion from a revolver - too many leaks. Likewise, it's difficult to do so from an automatic pistol because the barrel is very short.
As to the sonic boom, the only fix for that is sub-sonic ammunition. About the only common handgun round that is sub-sonic is the .45 APC (850fps).
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wrote:

You can make .22s very quiet and there is plenty of match grade ammo that is sub sonic. They also load subsonic 9mm. I know a guy will a suppressed 10-22 Norrell conversion that just boggles the mind when it shoots. All you hear is the bolt operating and an air sound similar to an impact wrench pulling down on a nut but the .22 slugs tearing up the target at round 1000 RPM will get your attention.
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over-rated. The noise from a gun firing comes from two

The supressors may be over rated. The revolvers will leak too much gas to be surpressed to a very low level.
Modern powder does not detonate, it burns very fast, around 6000 fps or so. The supressor asorbs the expanding gas and lets it out slow.The length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
There are plenty of common handgun ammunition that has a velocity of less than the speed of sound. The 9mm with 147 gr bullets is one. The 40 S&W is about as common as you can get now, 180 gr going 950 fps. The 380 another. Just about all common hand guns except the magnums will have a velocity of under 1100 fps, especially with the higher weight bullets.
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wrote in message > Suppressors are

there's one revolver that moves the cylinder against the frame and seals the gap,it was designed to accept a suppressor. Nagant,IIRC.

suppressors don't make gunshots noiseless,but they reduce the noise to the point it's not recognized as a gunshot unless you're very close to the shooter. But the bullet velocity has to be subsonic. .22 short or CB rounds.

I've read of long-barrelled .22 rilfes(24"?) using .22CB rounds being very quiet.
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wrote:

Dan Wesson makes a line of revolvers with an adjustable cylinder/barrel gap that does fairly well with a suppressor.
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On 1/2/2010 10:31 AM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Don't forget the Russian Nagant revolver. (no cylinder gap, and the front of the cartridge forms a gasket with the right ammo)
I've got one; it's so ugly it's cute. :-)
Bob
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