Questions About Dowsing For Water

[Doug Miller]

Oh, get off it, Harry. You've been saying all along that it works, and I've been saying all along that it doesn't.

[Doug Miller]

If you're so sure it works, why aren't you a millionaire?

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[Doug Miller]

There are multiple plausible explanations for that: a) the old man who 'witched' the line is the same guy that *installed* the line forty years before b) dumb luck c) get anywhere close and dig a big enough hole, and you're bound to hit it d) somebody's lying

The fact is that when "dowsing" is tested under controlled conditions, NOBODY has EVER demonstrated success at any rate greater than that expected by blind chance.

If you think you can do it, go get your million dollars.

[harry k]

rry k

Have you a dictionary? Perhaps you could find some other words to vary your replies?

Harry K

[harry k]

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I dowsed a buried water line for a neighbor. I had never been on his place but I traced it from the spring to a stanpipe. Again there were clues that that was where it should be.

Harry K

[Ulysses]

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm a true believer. I was a skeptic too until I tried it, got my well drilled, and got good water. All I'm saying is the the wands move under certain conditions and that it seems to be consistant. I have also stated that around here it's the generally accepted way to determine where to drill a well. I have tried it and I have not claimed any proficiency. I did not expect ANYTHING to happen. I even tried to get the wands to NOT move. It's the darndest thing.

[harry k]

Same here. I find things, I don't find things, there are clues but at the end teh rods move and one cannot detect themselves influencing them.

Harry K

[Ulysses]

harry k

Somehow I missed where you said you'd tried it. I did try a Ouija board once. It left very little impression on me. I saw an angel once. That left very little impression on me too. I did not suddenly become religious and become certain that there is a heaven and hell and Jesus is gonna save me from my sins. It just makes me wonder what they are. I didn't believe in them any more than I did leprichauns, elves, or unicorns.

[JIMMIE]

I had no problem locating my utilities with a pair of bent wires. The wires crossed when I stepped over the trench they were buried in. Just now I wa looking at a google earth photo of my lot and from above the location of the trench is clearly visible but you wouldnt notice it from the ground. I am wondering if what the wires are detecting is me tipping slightly or me unconsciuosly correcting for the tip as I stept down into a depression. Perhaps this is also the reason for the slight tug I feel while crossing the same area while swinging a pendulum in a circle.

Jimmie

[SteveB]

Nope. 60, and happily retired.

[Doug Miller]

No, Harry, the BS is coming from you. Here's your first post:

"I often wonder if any of the skeptics have actually tried using a couple bent wires. They work for me but I don't base any decisions on what they inidicate without other evidence supporting them. From tests of a few neighbors, friedns and family it seems that they work for at least half of anyone who tries it."

No mention there of working only when there are clues, just the blanket statement "they work for me ... they work for at least half of anyone who tries it".

This was followed with a lot of "obviously you haven't tried it" directed at the skeptics.

In another post, you wrote "I have found things using them and I have had them fail." No mention there, either, of dowsing working only when there are clues. Just the blanket statement "I have found things using them."

And this: "The problem with that is they indicate in just one location. I can stand in one spot, sway back and forth and they cross/uncross. Take one step and they don't. Am I infulencing them? Not that I can tell and I have tried to tell if I am." No mention there of any external clues, Harry.

[Doug Miller]

Your post extolling repeated dowsing successes made it pretty obvious.

This may come as a surprise to you, but there's underground water nearly everywhere on earth.

[Doug Miller]

Then go do it. Win a million dollars.

[harry k]

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So you admit you can't distinguish the difference between "working" in thesense of actually finding things and "working" in the sense of the rods moving? If you had actually paid attention to my posts you would see repeated statements where any "working" I refer to is speakign about the rods moving, not finding things.

But then you apparently are unable to understand anything that does not agree with your admant insistance that everyone but you is wrong.

Harry K

[Andrew Barss]

: Then why don't you go get the Million Dollar prize from the Amazing : Randi's foundation?

That foundation has a pretty bad record for changing the terms of what it considers valid tests halfway through. They're zealots.

-- Andy Barss