On 5/12/2013 8:17 PM, email@example.com wrote:
times. first on a 350 ft. well and twice on a 650 ft. well.
they have the equipment and the expertise. They will also check your
motor controller and probably replace the AC capacitor, if nothing else.
they will also check the wiring for shorting to the pipe, then pull the
pipe and pump and check the check valves on the way up.
If the pipe is rusty, they will have the replacement pipe right there.
On the way up, they will also examine the wiring for damage and the
torque arms for proper resistance to movement.
Finally, they can put the pump in a barrel of water to see if is truly
They will also check any screening on the pump to be sure it is still
A 60 ft. well should take less than an hour to do all the above.
I guess the ultimate question is: can you actually get to the well to
pull the pipe and pump? I have to use the Kubota to lift off the well
house. One nearby property we looked at had a barn built around the
well, so there was no way a truck could get to the well and then there
was a roof in the way of pulling the pipe.
It never fails to amaze me why darn near every answer on here lately is
to hire a professional. If people want to do that, they dont even need
to post a question to alt.home.repair.
Considering this is a DIY newsgroup, lets assume the OP is ready and
willing to DIY.
Several years ago, I had to pull a 500 ft well with all steel pipe and a
pump at the bottom. The loader on my farm tractor could not even budge
it. I tried darn near everything, and finally hired a pro to do the
job, which cost a small fortune. But a 60 ft well is another matter. I
once pulled a 40ft well, with jot pump in the basement. The well pipes
were plastic. I actually pulled it by hand. It was no easy task,
because the weight of the water is more than the pipes. But I did it.
If the OP has plastic pipes, use a winch. If the pipes are steel I'd
suggest a tractor with a loader, or front end loader. Or a strong
come-along on a tree branch if possible. But first buy or rent one of
those clamps that lock the pipe as it's raised, so it dont fall back in
the well. I dont know the name of that device, (maybe someone can
assist with the name).
60 feet is doable, and if the pipes are plastic, it's not even a needing
machinery, other than a winch or sturdy come-along. Steel pipes will
need some machinery, but is still doable for the homeowner.
On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:27:27 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I had not thought about the weight of the water but 60' of 1.25" pipe
only holds ~30 pounds of water.
This is black flex pipe, I watched them put it down. I assume the
water will stat draining out as it comes up and the pipe flops over. I
do see that a way to hold it would be handy.
Another thought might be to shoot 60 feet of air hose down the pipe
and blow as much water out as I can get,.
I have air.
On 5/13/2013 12:30 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Yeech...never seen that, but then again minimum water table around here
is about 200' so different animal...
Did they put a cable or something on pump to pull with? I've no clue
what you'd try to pull flex with to try to grab the pipe itself...one
uses the standard well clamps under the couplings for either metal or
solid plastic but that won't work w/ nothing to grasp...that's basically
like fishing for a broken piece.
On May 13, 1:30 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You can't blow the water out because there is a check valve in the
pump. Had a 50 ft well put in a few years ago and the well drillers
installed the pump by hand. It used poly pipe like you have. To pull
it out, it will be heavier because of the water, but should still be
On Mon, 13 May 2013 05:43:40 -0700 (PDT), " email@example.com"
I wasn't talking about blowing the water out the bottom. If you put
enough air at the bottom the water will come out the top.
That was how they pumped the mud out when they drilled the well. It
was shooting 10 feet in the air.
Thanks for the encouragement. One guy put this well pump in there, I
watched him do it and there is no metal pipe here at all. The well
casing is PVC and the pump is hanging on black poly pipe.
On May 13, 10:00 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You have 60 ft of pipe that's vertical, full of water. How do you
propose to get air to the bottom of it to blow the water up
and out? Also, it's only the water above the waterline that
adds weight when you're pulling it.
Yep, that's how it's done here too. The pump is just suspended from
the poly pipe. No reason you can't pull it yourself.
On Mon, 13 May 2013 07:07:04 -0700 (PDT), " email@example.com"
My plan was to shove 60' of air hose down there but I just grabbed it
and it wasn't that heavy so I just pulled it out myself. It is in the
I was wrong about the pipe, it is sch 40 PVC all the way down.
The problem was the pump unscrewed from the pipe.
I put it in a bucket and it still shoots water.
I am on my way to the store to get the fittings to put it back. I may
go ahead and replace the pipe too.
Thanks for your advice, Saved me $300, assuming they did not try to
sell me a pump.
I owe you a case of beer.
On 5/13/2013 10:11 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Must be nice... :) Try 200' 2-1/4" Sch 60 w/ 2-1/2 hp submergible on
the bottom... :)
> The problem was the pump unscrewed from the pipe.
> I put it in a bucket and it still shoots water.
> I am on my way to the store to get the fittings to put it back. I may
> go ahead and replace the pipe too.
While you're at it het a snubber to keep that from happening again...of
course, it makes it a little tougher to pull owing to the friction to
break it loose after it's sat there for years... :)
On May 13, 11:11 am, email@example.com wrote:
Thanks, good to know it worked out ok. But you
don't owe me anything. You've given a lot of good advice
to lots of people here over the years. I think it was you
who told me about the "relay in a box" a few years ago.
On Mon, 13 May 2013 16:54:05 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
That certainly seemed to be what happened. I had 3 guys here watching
me today and they all looked at the pump and the pipe. The threads
were OK and the pump certainly came loose.
I thought about just screwing it back on and shoving it back down the
In the end I decided a 12 year old pump was not worth putting back
down the hole and one of the guys had an account at a landscape supply
so I got a new Myers for $230. I went back with all new stuff.
I did drill and tap a SS screw in the pump to pipe threads. It ain't
unscrewing again ;-)
On May 13, 4:17 am, email@example.com wrote:
It all depends on what it is suspended on and the sort of pipework.
Usually special equipment is needed.
If you were handy, you could rig something up.
If not leave it to experts. There is potential
for a real good f**k up.
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