"Gun control" means hitting what you're aiming at.
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Prewiring alarm for a new house
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True. It also means controlling access to your guns. Anything less is stupid and reckless.
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OTOH, it doesn't make much sense to keep a gun around for protection, unless it's both loaded and readily accessible. Like most things in life, there are tradeoffs. I think I'd argue that if you truly have such a strong need for a firearm for protection _in_your_home_ that you *must* keep one loaded and accessible, then you really oughta move to a safer neighborhood. :-)
I keep mine in a locked cabinet. I think my dogs and my alarm system will give me enough advance warning to get one of them out, if I ever really need it.
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The question is readily accessible to whom? If it is in your possession (that is, if you are carrying it), we agree. If it is readily accessible to untrained children or to a thief because someone left it in the dresser drawer, you have a recipe for disaster. If you want to kep your gun strapped to your leg and walk around your house armed and ready that's your businss. OTOH, if someone leaves a loaded gun around where children can get at it and it causes an innocent person's death I believe it's fair to send him to prison for a long time. Fair enough?
That's what I consider gun control. If you use common sense about firearms, no one is likely to be hurt. It's the morons who leave loaded guns in the bedroom drawers while children are around that I think are nuts.
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What would be more embarrasing than to be killed by an intruder and you have 50 unloaded guns locked up in the house like the liberals want?
This crazyness goes even deeper now that it is "highly recomended" that you LOCK up you ammunition in a seperate location than the locked up guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Direct Control of a gun is keeping it inside a locked house/car and not hanging in plain site or open to the public.
As far as an unlocked gun; why not create full time 'gun zone', put a magnet in the grip and have the reed switch under the pad it is kept on, or the out-of-site box it is kept in?
Fully armed Gus
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What does any of this continueing conversation have to do with "Prewiring alarm for a new house"? I am sure people in the NRA's newgroup will be happy to converse with all of you on this issue. Electronics and cold steel don't usually fit in the same conversation. If someone wants to recommend ways of protecting gun cabinets or safes than it has a place here but otherwise it is a waste of space in this group.
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Fair enough.
No argument from me there either. FWIW, we've had guns since before we had kids. From the beginning, we've told the kids that these are dangerous, they are not to be played with -- but whenever they get curious about what the guns look like or how they work, all they need to do is ask, and we'll get one out of the cabinet and look at it _together_. That goes a long way toward removing the allure of forbidden fruit. It helps, too, that when the boys were small, we lived on 9 acres in the country. I used to go rabbit hunting right out the back door, and I took the boys along whenever I could. They saw at a very early age that when something gets shot, it *dies*, and dies _for_real_, not like what happens in cartoons, so they know first-hand that guns are serious business.
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Liberals? Unloaded guns? Where did that come from? Lock your gun when you're not holding it so your kid or the neighbor's kid doesn't blow his head off.
Uh, no. That is not direct control. That is hoping your kid doesn't find it. Now, if you live alone and never have visitors (like that nutcase from Waco), I suppose it doesn't matter.
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That is called responsible parenting. It is also a major part of *real* gun control. The problem is the idiots who never teach their children anything other than (by example) how to get drunk all the time and then leave loaded, unsecured guns in the house. Those people should be horse-whipped or worse, be forced to live with Jiminex. :^)
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Someone named "Robert L. Bass" Proclaimed on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:43:51 -0400,
Hey dog breath, why don't you come over for a visit?
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What happens when you go on vacation or away for a long weekend and have the dog cared for elsewhere?
Or are you the type who leaves his dog at home all alone for extended periods and have someone stop by once a day to walk and feed it?
If the dog is in the car, who is detering the thieves at your house?
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I dont, I get someone to check on the dog in my house.
Yep, and there is no need to walk it for that length of time.
No need to feed it either. I use the big 20lb paper sacks of dried dog food, just slash the sack, leave it lying on the floor and let the dog help himself as required. And I do that even when home.
The dog just needs to be able to get out of the house for a piss and a crap once a day, in the yard which he uses when I am not away. I choose to not let him get out there by himself, just because thats a bit of a risk with neighbours kids coming over the fence for their ball etc.
Like I said originally, thats one obvious downside.
I never claimed its a perfect approach, just pointed out the stupiditys in what was posted at the top.
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Someone named "Rod Speed" Proclaimed on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:35:24 +1000,
*stupidities* dumb arse- Vote on answer
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They might threaten other family members, things like that
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Someone named "Mark Leuck" Proclaimed on Fri,
30 Apr 2004 00:03:24 GMT,
Zap! Pow! Bang! Holy Comeback Markie!
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...And I bet you like your c*ck with a nice warm side of tarter sauce too!
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Someone named "Another Anonymous" Proclaimed on Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:54:52 GMT,
Chicken and tarter [sic] sauce?? Nahh.. Fish goes with tartar sauce silly..
When you figure out what the [sic] means, get back to me.
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Someone named G. Morgan Proclaimed on Thu, 29 Apr
2004 21:49:24 -0500,
You are taking too long..
That's okay, I'd expect that from a Ohio State University loser.
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haha not as smart as you thot you were you daft pillock!
#1 BWAHAHAHA @ figure out [sic] #2 what gives you the idea I'm an OSU student? or even a student at all? #3 now finish the job you started, here: 8===>~~ ahh good boy.
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*yawn* You're taking too long now. bed time, nitey nite fuckchops. see you in the mornin'.
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