Just noticed a vast array of presoldered made in china couplings, fittings
elbows etc at the local homedespot. Of course the 'helpfull' staff could
bearly speak english let alone comment on the new fittings.
Anyone got any real life experience with them? Seems that they would be a
real bonus for hard to reach areas and close quarters.
Cost was bit of factor but who cares about ten bucks one a complete
Remove the obvious to reply. Experienced and reliable
Concrete Finishing and Synthetic Stucco application in the GTA.
I recently used some of these for hard to reach places as well as general
connections. Initially, I did suplement a few connections with solder as it
didn't appear to me the connection was soldered properly, but after doing
about 10 connections, I was able to get a more consistent bead around the
connection which didn't require additional solder.
I bought them because I went to HD to get my fittings.
My joints were fine; well at least they don't leak.
But they don't inspire confidence. The contact area is obviously less then
a normal fitting, and I just enjoy seeing the solder drawn in. I haven't
used them since.
I potentially like them for the following reasons:
1.the inside of the fitting does not need to be cleaned saving time
2.they cost less than the cost of a fitting plus solder
3.the joint is equally as good
4.both sides can be soldered at once
5.they are easier to use in hard to reach places
I potentially don't like them for the following reasons:
1.the inside of the fitting should be cleaned no matter what they say
2.they cost more than the cost of a fitting plus solder when you don't
pay HD/Lowes prices for fittings / solder
3.the joint isn't actually equally as good in practice
I definitely don't like them for the following reasons:
1.the shelf space they occupy displaces parts which I do use and need
2.they interfere slightly with glued pipe insulation
3.both sides can be accidentally soldered at once
4.they are proprietary (I believe) and the price may be increased at
5.they call attention to repairs performed (people don't like seeing
6.they don't have the same variety of parts offered (no reducing T's in
7.I have mad soldering skills under the existing system and I wouldn't
want anyone changing my qwerty keyboard layout either
I definitely like them for the following reasons:
1.Homeowners will see that the solder is already in there and declare
that now they can do their own plumbing. They will rush home with
their sample pack and solder fever determined to go solder something
Hope this helps,
PS: Home Depot was giving away trial packages of them for free near
where I live.
My final opinion on their existence:
I wish they didn't exist because of the "other product displacement
My final opinion on using them (since they do exist):
I won't pay extra for them (I get standard copper fittings / solder
cheaper than HD prices elsewhere). I don't use them-- even for tight
spaces. I don't plan on switching anytime soon.
To be clear:
I don't hate or despise them. If everyone else switched I wouldn't
"hold out." I just don't see much actual time savings for someone
experienced with soldering and therefore I won't pay extra for them.
Hope this helps,
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