Pre-treat weeds with soapy water before spraying weed killer?

[Higgs Boson]

Try over in rec.gardens.

HB

[Stormin Mormon]

So, why is there not a foot of rock salt along the side of the road?

[Pico Rico]

That probably runs down the gutter to the lake. But when the Romans were putting an end to their enemies' foolishness, they salted their fields. If they can't grow, they can't eat, and if they can't eat, they can't be a nuisance to the Romans.

[Stormin Mormon]

How does a squirrel act strange?

Did you spray your neighbor?

[Stormin Mormon]

Aw, nuts. You asked before me.

[Terry Coombs]

HomeGuy"

[Terry Coombs]

Did you know that 3/4 of the hives in the USA are in California while the almond trees are blooming ? Didn't think so . There are beekeepers that truck their hives all over the country hiring them out as pollinators . Between varroa mites , tracheal mites , small hive beetles , American foul brood and other problems it's been estimated we now have less than a third of the beehives we had 15 years ago . And as far as CCD , the information I have is that it is PROBABLY a combination of factors , including glyphosate exposure along with neonicotinoid insecticides in sub lethal dosages and stress from cold weather . Nothing is definite , true , but they learn more every day . Now that we have invested in beekeeping , I'm VERY interested in anything that can harm Our Ladies of the Hive .

[Stormin Mormon]

226 lines.... anyone know how to trim?

[clare]

Not up here it doesn't. It contains chelated iron and some other rather benign stuff that ALMOST kills the weeds.

[clare]

The neonics APPEAR to be the most serious problem at this point, combined with the weather extremes

[bob haller]

I quit using weed killer after barefoot grass killed all my rubarb:( Then I thought about the birds and rabbits and havent used any in at least 20 years, I think dandelions are pretty flowers:)

To kill poision ivy mix poision ivy killer 50 / 50 with roundup, it kills fast but does break some federal laws........

[Pico Rico]

and what federal laws would those be?

[ChairMan]

+1 f*ck him, funny how he thinks we're all idiots, but asks us to solve his problems. Hell I'll send him some Dallisgrass and see how stumped he gets trying to kill it

[trader_4]

[trader_4]

I suspect that number is bogus, but I'd be happy to see the source. And for you to explain how one terrorist crop duster is going to cover the huge area of California that the bee hives are dispersed in. Plus there are a hell of a lot of other bees in the USA, besides ones kept in hives.

There are beekeepers that

And I thought glyphosate poisoning was "implicated" as the big problem. I'd like to see a source for that too.....

Now we're getting closer to the truth. I'd like to see a consensus where those actually researching CCD say that glyphosate is on that short list. You posting it is the first that I've heard of it and it sounds suspiciousl y like stuff the hippie GMO crowd comes up with, as opposed to something that actual bee researchers have said. Link please.

[Moe DeLoughan]

Those referred to on the pesticide label that say, "It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling". Since the label doesn't instruct the user to mix it with another product, it's not being used in the prescribed manner.

This seems like nitpicking to some, but it is (sometimes) deadly serious. People playing science experiment can mix up some hazardous combinations. They can also end up killing more than the intended targets. My favorite from working in the lawn and garden trade was the idiot owner of the business, who used to just reach behind him to whatever shelf he was leaning on, grab any bottle, and tell the customer that it was the solution for whatever problem the customer had. We'd get the angry phone calls later, after the customer had applied the weedkiller to their apple tree, or sprayed their vegetable garden with the systemic insecticide, rendering all the produce inedible. That's when we'd quote that label directive to them. If they had only read the label before applying it, they'd have discovered that the owner was full of shit, and only cared about making a quick buck. And never, never, take another person's word for what you can use the product for. If it's not listed on the label, it hasn't been tested for that purpose, meaning you are gambling - and like those customers who trusted my boss, you might lose big.

[Pico Rico]

BAH!

[clare]

Mis-use of listed chemicals -

[Pico Rico]

I don't see the mis-use.

[Terry Coombs]

Here's one .