What I meant was we never bought oil except in bulk via 55-gal drum so
never bought oil by quart retail until went off to school and by that
time the packaged can (albeit the cardboard ones) were king.
I've seen them in collections, etc., but don't recall ever having even
seen them in use even at the Co-op retail store -- of course, my
recollections of that kind don't go back before the early-/mid-50s--I'm
approaching geezerhood, but not quite _that_ geezerish quite yet... :)
The way I got the current collection of quart cans is that when the
Co-op refinery went out of production Dad bought the entire stock of the
particular oil we used in all the farm trucks they had in stock. That
was over 20 years ago now, and I've probably still got 50 gal left.
Since all the old Chevy trucks that used 20W single-grade are gone
except for the one '58 I've kept as a small "beater" around the place
for yard work, etc., the rate at which I can use it is pretty small
being as I may not change the oil in that truck more than once a year
any more...otoh, the tractors use anywhere from 5 to 7 gal/change
depending on which one and at every 100 hrs, that runs up pretty
quickly... :( Although the biodiesel and improved oils, the newest
which also has large capacity, has stretched change time to 150 hrs --
we'll see how that goes w/ time as we have them all on a tribology
monitoring program. At 100K and up, that's a pretty easy expense to
The special tool WAS the spout. It was used for the old cardboard cans with the
Here's a picture of one
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:39:08 -0800 (PST), frank megaweege
First of all, I absolutely despise those new self-pouring plastic
paint containers. I find the paint very difficult to stir in them,
and there's a lot of waste involved since there's no easy way to
scrape out the last of the paint.
Secondly, I suspect, JSB, that the reason why your paint cans are
looking so much better than the previous owners' is because you are
presumably CAREFUL to wipe out as much of the paint in that lip on the
can the lid slides into, which means when you slide YOUR lid into YOUR
can, you've got a nice airtight seal. This is, of course (what shock,
what awe!) what I do and what has served me well for decades. I
really think it's as simple as that.
I figured, but it always seemed like too simple a reason. When I bought my
first house, I was lucky enough to have a hardware store two blocks away.
The husband & wife who ran the place were both painting wizards. I learned a
lot of tricks from those people.
Interesting point. I'm sure cans are available in different grades and with
di different coatings. Probably not a concern if you use it all up, but
I've had paint contaminated by rust when I wanted to do a touch up a year
I looked at a few more of the other guy's paint cans tonight, and found that
on a few, the entire lid is rusted, not just the edges where he obviously
abused them. These cans have the same 2003 date mark as the others.
Unless you were there when the previous owner bought the paint it seems
silly to assume that the cans where originally sold in 2003 or that the
paint cans were not damaged to begin with. My limited experience is that
paint cans stored out of the elements don't rust in just a few years. That
these cans have leads me to wonder how old the cans are. how the cans were
stored et c. These are things that you don't know.
True, he could've bought them in 1997 and waited until 2003 to paint. My
comments are based on what they said when I first toured the house in 2004.
"We painted last year". It's more than a few cans, though. A total of 8
from two different sources, Behr and Sears. All damaged?
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:02:41 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
Were the paint cans rusty when you took possession or did they rust
after that? Somewhere along the timeline, they were exposed to
moisture. Maybe a plumbing leak, or maybe they were stored elsewhere
for a time.
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