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The house was already constructed, but...
Except for the person who buried the crap, who knows, or who could have
known. It is even possible that when the stuff was buried it was legal
to do so, and in that case, the current owner has little recourse at
all. However the article seems to indicate a variety of hard items,
mostly metal, not garbage, so leaving it buried likely won't hurt anyone.
It can happen. I was once invited to invest in a sand pit.
The promoter said the said had already been sold and would be paid for as it
was removed. But that was not the selling point. What made the deal
attractive, according to him, was the tax provisions.
You see, he explained, as you remove the sand you are depleting a mineral
asset and you get a tax deduction. But that's only part of the scheme.
When the sand is gone, you have a big honkin' hole in the ground. Now you
charge people to dump stuff in the hole (concrete, tree trunks, washing
machines, whatever). But the real money-maker is this: you have an asset
(the hole), you're filling it up (with junk), thereby depleting an asset
My brain was going dizzy, but he continued: "Wait, there's more!"
"When the hole is almost full, you cover everything with about two feet of
topsoil and sell the acreage for a low-cost housing subdivision!"
well, duh. they put yuppie subdivisions on top of landfills all the time.
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Yeah, cheap 12" deep foundations don't provide much support, nor reveal much
underground information. So you could end up overlooking a lot of potential
problems. Up here in the cold north minimum depth is 4 feet, many
foundations go 5 to 7 feet deep to allow for a basement.
Southern half of Florida. No frost heave. Lots of areas are not good
places to build basements. Areas with poor drainage or water close to
the surface. Like Florida. You do not find many here in NC either.
Poor drainage and lots of heavy rain. A few where the land slopes
enough that most of the basement is out of the ground anyway. Don't
make assupmtions based on your locality.
I'm not making any assumptions at all. It's just commonsense to build a
basement. regardless of soil conditions. It's all workable. AND the
IBC requires footings to be deeper than 12" regardless of location.
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Wrong and wrong.
There are many places in Florida where if you dig 4 feet down your
hole will fill up with water. A basement in those conditions is just
plain stupid. You can't solve that with drainage. It's not
And building codes are local, not ibc. Ibc is a model that local
juristictions can start from. They adapt as needed. Since there are
no geological issues or frost in southern florida they don't need a
deep footing. What's under the footing in florida is almost always
sand. You dig deeper you just find more sand. So it's not like you
can dig to a more stable stratum either. And if you dig too deep and
your footing starts filling up with water now you've got a headache on
Same in all of south Texas. There must be a million homes in the greater
Houston area and maybe six have basements. First, its at least 500' before
you get to a stable rock formation - 'til then it's damp clay. Secondly,
land is relatively cheap (compared to, say, Philadelphia), so homes tend to
move out (sometimes up) to generate square feet.
Only for you, which makes it less common than one might expect. Many,
many places don't build basements, and there are good reasons to not do
so. As well, there are few advantages and many disadvantages to
basements in many places, including increased costs over a simple slab.
I have to ask WHY? They are not necessary in that location...
BTW. The IBC says:
Footnote "a" of Table 1805.4.2 refers to Section 1805.2 for footing
depth, which specifies a minimum footing depth of 12 inches or the depth
of the frost line, whichever is deeper. There are exceptions for
Occupancy Category I buildings or buildings sited on solid bedrock.
There is no frost line set for Florida since the average frost depth is
6 inches or less.
Well, I'll admit there are some areas where a basement isn't practical.
But then again, most of those places are not an area where I'd care to
build a house anyway.
And plenty of people build houses in areas where NO houses should be
allowed, absent a signed and recorded waiver of EVER getting public
assistance when (not if) mother nature destroys them. Sandbar islands,
the sides of mountains, bottom land less than 3 feet above the mean
water level of the river or ocean a half mile away, or actually below
sea level, etc. (I think it is criminally stupid that they are
rebuilding the low-lying parts of New Orleans. It WILL flood again.
Spend the money to buy them out, and build a New Ninth Ward on the high
side of the lake, and set up a cheap shuttle bus service so they can get
to their jobs.)
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