You're kidding, right? $100 per foot? When I hooked up to the sewer
line a 30 foot length of sewer pipe was needed and part of it was 8-10
feet deep compared to 3-4 feet normal for a water supply line.
According to you the digging would be a minimum of $3000 or if real
cheap about $1500. Thank god, I only paid a total of $600. Even
well drillers don't charge $100 a foot here.
I know you learned your lesson already, but this should have raised a red
flag immediately (phone estimate).
Your chances are almost as good getting an estimate on Usenet. No reputable
person can give an estimate without visually seeing what the job consists
of. I'm involved with construction estimates, each one has a different
element to deal with. From pipelayers to painters, without blueprints and
spec sheets, you need to put a visual on it.
A plumber for $25 an hour!? Wow! In New York my cleaning lady makes $17.50
and hour and she's cheap! A New York Metro area plumber makes between $75 to
$100 an hour - double that for work in New York City. I don't understand why
if he gets a good deal on some pipe, he has some obligation to give you the
same deal? He'd have to be some incredibly nice guy to do work for you for
very litlle money and to scrounge up a good price on materials so you
wouldn't have to pay what the materials should cost. Doesn't sound that
realistic to me.
Here in North Carolina, my daughter recently had a consultation meeting with
a lawyer.... $50 for the first hour of consultation. After that, it was
$150 per hour. My last plumber, who I won't hire again, charged me $175 to
roto-root one line of my house. It took him (and his assistant in training)
less than 45 minutes to do it. Needless to say, I won't hire him or his
PS.... Is there some kind of advanced degree that plumbers get that makes
them more technical and expensive than lawyers? My friend across the street
swears that he's never met a plumber that wasn't drunk or working to get
drunk. I apologize in advance to the honest plumbers that may be out there.
Wayne, any idea of the costs he has to be able to show up at your place and
spend an hour or two? If he carries his paid helper and drives his rather
pricey truck/van with that few thousand dollar machine and many thousands
more for all the tools and parts he needs, from his place to yours, should
he not recover his costs of doing so? Would you if you were him or do you
think he's mismanaging his business?
What about all the time he spent learning his 'trade' and his liability
whether he knows what he's doing or not? What if he chewed a hole in your
pipe, you expect him to take the cost of fixing it outta were? Yesterdays'
wages? How about his previous profits? You do realize he's self employed and
pays his and the employer's parts of FICA etc. right? That's on his helpers
too. What about anything for retirement since he's both employer and
employee? I could go on some more but.... the lawyer writes off his rent or
lease payments, or more likely owns his building while it appreciates in
value. He probably leases his office equipment while the plumber probably
has a large expense if he leases his vehicle(s) but he can't lease his tools
and special machines. The lawyer has E&O insurance and liability if you fall
on his business property but he isn't going out to your place and doing
anything close to causing your house tens of thousands of dollars in water
or other damages like mold discovered three years later. That BTW, the
plumber can no longer buy insurance to protect himself against; or so I
think since my coverage has been deleted from my insurance coverage and all
I do is install equipment on existing potable water line plumbing. So IMO,
that's a bad analogy and it's really wrong as to what your plumber's charges
have to be for him to stay in business; he doesn't work for hourly wages
although he may charge labor rather than flat rate. There's a whole other
world on the other side of this equation and it seems you have no factual
clue as to what it's like from the other side.
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Quit your griping
He quoted the job, you accepted and he performed the service. It's called
His price was par for the job, not way over as some have suggested.
Most commercial plumbers make prevailing wages. Look their rate up for your
Why would he work overtime for you and charge half? I'll bet you wouldn't
work over for half your pay rate.
Maybe you neighbor truly does love him. Maybe he lays more pipe with your
neighbor and gives a volume discount......
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