Are you seeing multiple instances of the same thread in GG these days?
I'm seeing threads showing up with the same subject lines containing
only a few posts. It really makes using GG a major pain and it seems
to be getting worse.
There are well over 20 instances of Guns in America
Re: OT: Guns in America (5)
Re: OT: Guns in America (3)
Re: OT: Guns in America (3)
Re: OT: Guns in America (5)
Same thing for More Trump:
Re: OT - more Trump (4)
Re: OT - more Trump (5)
Re: OT - more Trump (3)
Re: OT - more Trump (2)
and Idiot lights-out drivers:
Re: OT Idiot lights-out drivers (2)
Re: OT Idiot lights-out drivers (1)
Re: OT Idiot lights-out drivers (5)
Re: OT Idiot lights-out drivers (3)
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:38:03 AM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Yes, started in the last week or so. I wasn't sure what was going
on, I thought since most of them are ones started by the trolls, that
maybe they were starting all these new threads. But I see some are
also from posters who aren't trolls too. So, IDK, I guess it's a GG
problem? Whatever it is, like you say, it makes viewing it a real
mess. Plus there seem to be less OT threads of any kind recently.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
In addition, they all start with Re: which, as you know, is what happens
when an email is replied to, not a usenet post.
A quick scan seems to indicate that there are no subject lines starting
with Re: that *don't* repeat, so it has to be related to how/why Re: gets
attached to those subject lines.
In my case, it is because the thread of the message to which it is a reply
is no longer on my computer. However, that is with a news reader, not GG,
have no idea how GG does it. Or even why GG exists :)
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:37:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
If you thought about it a minute you would know. When people change
the subject line to indicate thread drift, Google does not recognize
the change. Real news readers do. Google also ignores any post with
the "no archive" bit set, I guess because Goggle refuses to forget
1) Posts are threaded by the References: header. This has a reverse-ordered
list of unique message Id's that preceeded the instant message. If the
newsreader breaks the References: header, google groups and newsreader clients
will not know which thread the newly posted message resides in and will thus
create a new thread for it.
2) X-No-Archive is not a standard NNTP header[*], thus there is no requirement
for any news server or archive service to honor it.
"When DejaNews was purchased by Google, Google continued to honor
the X-No-Archive directive. Other newsgroup archiving services have
also followed in DejaNews' footsteps, though the decision not to
archive X-No-Archive messages has been entirely voluntary."
[*] Header tags starting with X- are inserted by newsreader clients and
are completely ignored by standard news servers such as INN, C-news or
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 11:30:51 AM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I understand that. For example the "Square D electrical panel question"
thread shows changes of subject lines *within* the posts, but not on the
main thread list page. For example, when Stormy changed the subject line to
"Re: G Fretwell picture" I see that in the *body* of the posts. However,
all posts in that thread are showing up in a single thread under the
original "Square D electrical panel question" subject line on the main
thread list page. I assume that that is what you mean by GG not
recognizing the change.
However, in the cases I mentioned in my OP, there does not appear to be
any change of subject line, at least not that show up within the post itself,
because I don't see "Re: Some Other Subject Line" when I view the body
of the post.
What I do see is "groups" of 1, 2, 5, etc. posts all using "Re: (original
subject line)" on the main thread list page.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 12:56:07 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
3 (rarely 4) different access methods - 2 PC's and a tablet (rarely my
1 PC is corporate system with no ability to install a newsreader.
I can open GG on any device and they are all synced. I know other news readers
can do that, but GG is the only available access on the corporate system, so
I choose to stay consistent across all devices.
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 8:24:00 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
Obviously you've never experienced a locked down corporate PC to which no
extermal media can be connected. The only thing the USB ports can be used for
are mice, keyboards and charging smartphones. The OS disables the media
portion of the smartphone, presenting the massage "External media device
BTW I just looked everywhere on the iPad I'm typing this post on. Can you tell
me where to plug that thumb drive in?
On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 9:36:24 PM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
Old story, heard it all before. If you knew how I got paid, you'd think differently.
They are actually saying "For security reasons, no external input or output
devices are allowed on our networks."
Many sites are blocked, especially those that allow downloads or uploads, again, for
security reasons. GG Is not blocked, by their choice. They could block it with a couple
of keystrokes if it was a concern.
You make it sound as if I was complaining. I wasn't. I was simply pointing out that
the suggestion to use a portable newsreader on a thumb drive is not an option,
neither at work nor on my iPad.
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 12:30:21 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
As a standalone, iPad only solution, tbird might not be a bad idea. In
fact, I used to use NewsTapLite on my iPad, which is a dedicated
However, I still have to adhere to the main restriction related to
accessing usenet: The fact that GG is the only thing I can use on
my work PC. For consistency sake, I use GG on my work PC, my home PC,
on my iPad (in desktop mode) and smartphone and any other random PC
that I might sit down in front of. Anywhere that I use GG it all looks
the basically the same.
One more thing to keep in mind: While I appreciate all of the suggestions,
I was never actually asking for or looking for an alternative. I was
merely asking trader_4, who I know uses GG, if he was seeing the same
"split thread" issue that I am. Granted, I did voice some frustrations
regarding the readability of GG because of this fairly new issue, but I
did not mean to give the impression that I needed/wanted a different
way to access usenet.
I've used tbird on my laptop, and pc, and via a thumb drive, but on my
android smart phone I found an app called Groundhog that works pretty
well. I guess I just look for the easiest app to use on whatever device
I'm using at the time. When I had my tablet I used Groundhog on it, too.
I was just curious why you'd choose google groups vs something that
might be easier to use. Everyone has their own reasons for what they use.
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