PC antivirus software question

So you have a sort of sense of humor? Miracles never end to surprise me.

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Chris
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On 8/13/2008 6:08 PM J. Clarke spake thus:

This idjit obviously can't distinguish between Consumer's Union and the CPSC. I wouldn't sweat being "plonk"ed by him.

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David Nebenzahl

Thanks David. It's clear to me that John needed a way to exit this dialog while still saving face. Since the argument he raised was no longer defendable, and he (thankfully) chose not to get into a name-calling escape like Salty Dog, he chose the next obvious tactic, to attempt some "guilt by association" strategy.

It entirely backfired, since the point he made is, as you state, idiotic and specious.

Thanks for your support David. I have absolutely no hidden agenda here except that I wanted to offer the original poster a source of very recent (September 08) reviews of antivirus software, and I find Consumer Reports and Consumers Union to be great resources, and originally recommended them for that reason. Why somebody else needs to attack my suggestion in the first place can only be explained by the myriad of weird people who show up on the Internet with a need to criticize.

Smarty

Smarty

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Smarty

On 8/13/2008 11:39 PM Smarty spake thus:

You're welcome.

Couple meta-things:

1) Why did you feel compelled to change my spelling in what you quoted? When I wrote "idjit", I meant it.

2) You oughta learn how (or set up your mail/news program (Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0 from the looks of things) to trim signatures from your replies (the two hyphens in a row are the standard delimiter, and it seems every other mail/news client in the world *except* Microsoft's adhere to this time-honored tradition).

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David Nebenzahl

My apologies for correcting the apparent mis-spelled word. I spell check withot regard to who made the (apparent) error so it was not obvious where it originated as I clicked through the spell checker.

Indeed my Windows Mail program does not offer any option to trim signatures automatically, and my custom is to not particularly trim the thread exchange heavily if at all. I agree that it is more easily read, transmitted, and stored in an edited form. Mea culpa... ;-)

Smarty

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Smarty

If you knew more, you wouldn't get surprised so often by "miracles".

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salty

You two should get a room.

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salty

I never said "Linux will give your cat warts." You're thinking of Firefox.

If you mean XP/Vista vs. Linux? Sure.

It's the difference between dating a chorus girl compared to opening the back door and screwing the whole world.

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HeyBub

That's like the company that touts in boring detail the qualities of it's

1/4" drill bit [pardon the pun] and completely misses the fact that, in spite of millions of 1/4" drill bits being sold each year, NO ONE WANTS A 1/4" DRILL BIT!

What they want is a 1/4" hole.

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HeyBub

Just keep on truckin', dude. I wish you well.

Ignore the fact that the most destructive virus in the history of computing involved Unix (Linux) operating systems.

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HeyBub

Linux is another Microsoft mistake!

I've held, for a long time, that the development of Linux was secretly funded by Microsoft in an attempt to drain the nay-sayers, nit-pickers, pettifogs, cut-purses, and athletes of the tongue from the ranks of serious computer users so we normal folk could go about our computing experiences unmolested.

Unfortunately, all the hirsute people who smell funny now gather together electronically and bother the rest of us, much like another Microsoft experiment involving a paper-clip.

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HeyBub

Hmm, trying to make sense of that analogy... Nope.

A slick interface is a goal. Not my goal but why else would anyone install Vista? The "Aero" interface managed to push the hardware requirements up to 2gig of memory. Somehow OSX and Linux did just as well or better without raising memory requirements. In fact, newer versions run faster on the same hardware.

Another analogy... Looks like you have a knack for it.

It should have been clear I was talking about paying for AV software. First you rent an OS so full of holes that you then have to rent AV software to prevent that OS from being eaten alive.

As far as this last analogy... In one case you pay, in the other case it's free. I don't think "dating a chorus girl" is the right term.

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Dan Espen

Dan, are you saying that installing and working with Linux is do-able for someone at the novice (not newbie) level?

I hate Windows and am not fond of IE. I had to go back to IE after upgrading Firefox screwed my computer up. I had been using it for years. But every damn thing I have to install for windows eats up so much resources. And I really don't know what I Need to install and what I can skip. I also tried Thunderbird but wasn't crazy about it either. I use OE.

Can I somehow install Linux over windows--I don't know what a dual boot is. I will do a bit of research.

rose

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rose

Excellent point and articulately stated.......

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Smarty

Yes.

You can install Linux over, beside or inside windows.

Over is very easy, boot from the CD. One of the first questions it asks is do you want to install over.

Beside (dual boot) is a bit harder. Mainly you have to decide how much space you want to use for Linux (that's the harder part). The installer will resize the Windows partition if necessary. Next time you boot, it asks you want to boot Windows or Linux.

Inside can be done a couple of ways:

With WUBI Linux, you install Linux just like any other Windows application. Next time you boot it asks if you want to boot Linux or Windows. The difference is, Linux resides within the Windows file system.

There are a few Virtual Machines. I've used VMWare (which you can now get for free) and Virtual Box. Both let you run Linux inside Windows or Windows inside Linux. Both run at the same time. Also very simple to install.

As I said previously, you don't even have to install it. You can get a "live" CD or USB key. Then boot from the CD or USB key. If you're afraid you'll mess something up, the live CDs are really risk free.

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Dan Espen

Has the Linux community finally gotten a reliable read/write NTFS driver working?

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J. Clarke

Yes.

One reason to keep a Linux live CD around is for repairing Windows. Just did that at work a while back.

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Dan Espen

If you could articulate just a little better, you could get a room with yourself.

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salty

I am somehow reminded of Samuel Johnson's dictum:

"A woman in the pulpit is like a dog raised up on its hinder legs. It is not well done, but you are surprised to find it done at all."

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HeyBub

If you could type a little slower, maybe I could understand what you are trying to say.......

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Smarty

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