True, the charms won't be missed. I *can* trigger them...
unfortunately, it's usually when I don't want to see them.
But for me, Windows 8.1 + Classic Shell is just about as usable as
Windows 7, and Windows 10 offers no advantage over either.
I'd be the same if I'd ever had to go to 8.1. Put a decent shell in
place and move on. I did buy a new desktop system this spring but the
Dell had 7. It was a no-brainer to buy a leftover 7 rather than the same
hardware with 8.
The only interesting thing I've heard about 10 so far is the ability to
have multiple desktops. I've used third party add-ons in the past and it
wasn't the smoothest experience. Maybe MS got it right. My primary
machines a Linux and I have 4 desktops at home, 8 at work. I work on
several different projects at once and having each in its own desktop
beats pawing through multiple cmd icons and editor icons to find the
The Dell was pretty clean and didn't have much beyond the OEM
installation. It didn't really matter since I went dual boot with
OpenSUSE. uptime reports 132 days so it's been at least that long before
7 saw the light of day on this box.
There is nothing wrong with 7. The UI for 8.1 was too mobile oriented. I
have 7 on my work and home windows boxes and have no plans to go to 10
unless a truly compelling reason comes up. If I had 8.1, I'd definitely
upgrade. 10 still has annoyances for someone used to the traditional
desktop but it's a little better. It still suffers from trying to be
both a desktop and a mobile OS at the same time.
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 1:08:51 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
Unless I'm missing something, it looks like for the vast majority
of those of us using Win 7, we'll kind of have to upgrade to 10
within the next year, unless something changes. Win 10 is free for
us only for the next year. After that, unless something changes,
you're stuck with Win 7 and an uncertain future, ie how long they
will support it, updates, etc. With 10, you're on the latest, going
to be fully supported longer, etc. My plan is to probably do nothing
until next year.
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 02:24:32 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
W7 works and will for some time. By the time you must upgrade, chances
are you'll be needing a new computer.
Worst case is you'd have to pay $100. I think you can download it and
not install until later, but I don't know if you can wait months to
install it. In other words, DL it at the end of the year and wait as
long as you can to do the install.
On 07/30/2015 8:16 AM, email@example.com wrote:
And an NT4 laptop... :)
(altho no W98 left, there is still a bootable OS/2 Warp partition, too;
some utility power plant performance monitoring systems we developed are
still actually running 24/7 so must maintain this until the utility
finally decides to change platforms for those...)
It's apparently amazing to some that the bits don't change; only the
marketing ploys to sell product to keep the vendor revenue stream flowing.
I could never get my copy of W98 to load ... I did get 2K to load and run
, but it's just not quite as functional as XP . Every comp here (5 at the
moment) is running XP pro , and I don't plan to change that .
New software may not install on XP, but I see no reason not to keep
using it for existing software that still works.
I'll probably stop using it on the web, when they stop updating Firefox.
That's no reason to stop using it for DVD authoring.
On 07/30/2015 08:16 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Windows 2000 is much more stable than the DOS-based versions, and XP
works better with high-speed internet. After that, I saw little if any
improvement. Mainly, they (later Windows) made it harder to find and use
stuff I use regularly.
It always did piss me off when they renamed the exact same functionality
to something different and moved it. I guess the old 'Add and Remove
Programs' (Programs and Features) functionality can be found in
Settings, Control Panel, Explorer, PowerShell, Start Menu, and in an
Administrator command prompt with wmic.
I've found wmic is the most trustworthy was to drive a spike through an
app, particularly a botched SQL Server uninstall.
On 30 Jul 2015, email@example.com wrote in alt.home.repair:
I've found plenty of reasons to abandon XP, namely a growing list of
programs that will only run on Windows 7 or later. My main computer is
still running XP, but I'm working on building my next computer, which
will run Windows 7. ETA is a few weeks from now.
That's always been my cue to upgrade: when it becomes difficult,
inconvenient, or impossible for it to do something I want it to do.
That time has finally come for me.
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