OT What is the big deal about Hubble danger?

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We still have the original 3 population controls. War, famine, and diesease.

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Just the sort of thing that prompted me to post.

And even if it was only 13 years at one altitude and 6 at the higher, right you are.

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What if we just militarized the gates?

[Jim Yanik]

[e-mail] (Cap'n Obvious) wrote in news: [e-mail]:

one big danger is all the orbital debris from the Red Chinese ASAT test.

[Jim Yanik]

dicko wrote in news:NImPl.18509$ [e-mail]:

Sez who? It's probably been hit by a lot of space junk,but not damaged enough to affect it.They install protective blankets and shields to stop the smaller particles.

BUT,the recent Red Chinese ASAT test left a lot of bigger,more dangerous debris.

Who says it hasn't been hit? what do YOU know about it? Note one of the shuttles was hit by a paint chip that damaged it's windshield.Damaged,but not critically.

Why is it the Earth has only been struck by a Dinosaur Killer 65 million years ago,and not more recently?

[Kurt Ullman]

Actually they did. Hubble was designed with 15 year life expectancy which would make anything past 2005 a bonus.

[Jim Yanik]

aemeijers wrote in news:6NmPl.232442$ [e-mail]:

That's the MOST STUPID statement; once ICBMs are launched,they TRAVEL THRU SPACE to reach their targets. They will also be guided by orbital satellites like GLONASS and GPS.

Space is ALREADY "militarized".

about as well as the agreement North Korea made to not launch ballistic missiles,or Iran with it's Non-Proliferation Treaty violations and nuclear weapons programs.IOW,not at all.

[Nate Nagel]

well, yeah, those are always fun ones :)

nate

[trader4]

No need to worry about that. Obama has the whole program under review with the goal to accelerate and exapnd it. The administration is talking about manned missions back to the moon and going to Mars.

The Obama solution to the "financial crisis" is to spend sums unthinkable just a year ago on a whole host of things we can't pay for. Expanding the space program fits right in. As one small example of the reckless spending going on, the govt is planning on spending $60mil for a memorial park in PA where the United 911 flight crashed. If you can justify that, surely you can justify anything.

[Jim Yanik]

Kurt Ullman wrote in news: [e-mail]:

look at the Mars rovers;designed for 3 months,still working after 5 years.

I have a light bulb in a bathroom light fixture that's lasted 23 years,gets daily use. I'm sure that's well beyond its "design life". It's a 130V "contractors" bulb. 40W.

[David Nebenzahl]

On 5/15/2009 7:49 PM Jim Yanik spake thus:

Your use of the term "Red Chinese" is quaint, and a bit anachronistic. Are you still living in the dim anti-Communist past? Just what other Chinese are you concerned about us confusing the Chinese with? The Taiwanese?

[HeyBub]

Well, that too. But just militarizing the gates doesn't threaten the invaders' wives, children, relatives, friends, pets, venerated shrines, or way of life.

[bob haller]

the hubble danger is largely about...........

even a tiny piece of space debris like a paint chip hitting a astronaut in a space suit. moving at 17,000 miles per hour, even a paint chip could kill not only a crew member in a space suit, but take out the entire shuttle.

it could be left depressurized, out of control orbiting till it falls back to earth like skylab did.

a major hazard, since the shuttle would break up scattering debris as it tumbles and re enters.

the worst would be a stranded depressurized shuttle still attached to hubble. this high drag would bring them both down quickly, and given their large size and large components, like hubbles mirror,

no doubt some would be hit on the ground, or the mass panic casulaties..

all these risks are beyond a shuttle getting stuck in orbit somehow.........

espically a debris hit to a thermal protection part just before re entry

[HeyBub]

You're confusing campaign promises with reality.

"[May 7th] Plans for NASA to send humans back to the moon might be in jeopardy. President Barack Obama's administration today called for an independent review of NASA's human space flight activities."

[Dimitrios Paskoudniakis]

And another is the Russian satellite crashing into a US satellite a couple of months ago, generating showers of debris that will be out there for thousands of years.

[bob haller]

s keeps talking

Low earth orbit could be made unusable if too many collisions create too much more space debris.......

They tend to spread and collide with more stuff creating many more debris

[The Daring Dufas]

Like the classic old asteroid game.

TDD

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On 16 May 2009 03:55:57 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote: a bonus.

I hear they are slowing down and predicted to stop this year. There is an issue of dust, I think also, or maybe that is cause of slowing down.

[Jim Yanik]

"Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote in news:gumhjv$slg$ [e-mail]:

I believe that debris is in a different orbital plane and not directly threatening the shuttle ops.

[Ashton Crusher]

I just heard a news story on it. They were ooohing and aahhing over the fact that they had to take some screws out that were, get this, hard to get to. Ooooo. The astronauts are pretty much little more then fearless auto mechanics.