Of course, anything would make you laugh because you're
a moronic raving loon. No facts. No data. Just stupid
ideas based in ignorance. And when presented with the
facts, ie that a 10 year long ban on "assualt weapons" and
high capacity magazines made no difference in murder rates,
crime rates, then you just try to evade.
My vote for the biggest village idiot of the month. You've
even passed harry and homelessguy. Quite an achievement!
On 12/26/2012 12:50 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Whenever the P.L.L.C.F. talk about confiscating firearms I ask them what
should happen if a citizen refuses to surrender his property. The answer
is always that the police should shoot them dead and take their
That sure cuts down on gun violence,
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
Whenever the P.L.L.C.F. talk about confiscating
firearms I ask them what should happen if a citizen
refuses to surrender his property. The answer is
always that the police should shoot them dead and
take their guns. O_o
You've identified what I believe is the profound weakness in all the "arm
the schools" suggestions. The mass shooters, by an large, have the tactical
element of surprise on their side. They also choose the "battlefield" and
are typically as well-armed as any one individual can be, at least with
conventional weapons. Now they are even using ballistic protection. That's
a terribly difficult advantage to nullify. So is being armed with a pistol
when your attacker is concealed some distance away with a much more powerful
The armed responders at Columbine were not able to overcome the element of
surprise. Mother Jones researched all the of US mass shootings and found
*no* case of armed responders being able to intercept and nullify an
Surprise has been an element of many successful military operations - just
look at D-day in WWII. Had the Germans known precisely where the assault
was coming, it could have failed or been far more costly to the Allies. We
spent an enormous effort to keep the location of the attack concealed,
making it very difficult for the Germans to put defensive troops and
materiel in place.
We aren't likely to solve the mass-shooting problem short of a time machine
or the invention of guns that can only be used in self-defense:
<<The Isher/Weapon Shops novels are one of the very few examples of Golden
Age science fiction that explicitly discusses the right to keep and bear
arms, specifically guns. Indeed, the motto of the Weapon Shops, repeated
several times, is "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free". Van
Vogt's guns have virtually magical properties, and can only be used in
As the gun rights advocates have rightly noted, the gun laws mostly apply to
law-abiding citizens and not criminals or the insane, so new laws are not
likely to prevent their reoccurrence. A ban on high capacity magazines has
some potential to reduce the severity of mass shootings, but there are so
many of them in circulation now that it's a little late to lock the barn
door. Perhaps better late than never.
One thing that is disturbing is that their appears to be a clear link
between the rise in the number of guns in circulation and the number and
severity of mass-shootings.
<<There appears to be a relationship between the proliferation of firearms
and a rise in mass shootings: By our count, there have been two per year on
average since 1982. Yet 25 of the 62 cases we examined have occurred since
2006. This year alone there have already been seven mass shootings-and a
record number of casualties, with more than 140 people injured and killed.>>
As for the idea that armed responders in schools can stop tragedies like
Newtown: <<In Tyler, Texas, a civilian named Mark Wilson fired his licensed
handgun at a man on a rampage at the county courthouse. Wilson-who was a
firearms instructor-was shot dead by the body-armored assailant, who wielded
This case was NOT included in the mass shootings data set because fewer than
four victims died. If a firearms instructor can't do it, who can? Miss
Epstein, my second grade teacher? Not very likely. Almost every teacher I
know is a gun-control advocate.
In a holster? Maybe even locked in a desk drawer? Perhaps, in a
chickenshit place like you live, in a gun safe built into the desk?
Hell, even arming the office staff with the guns stored in a gun safe
would be better than advertising for dead children.
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