So true...... I don't think voting does much at present.
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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."-- Claire Wolfe
Hmm. Attributable to the recession. My view is that the O regime and over taxataion and over regulation are the cause of the recession.
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to $160bil. By comparison, under Obama the deficit has gone up by $6tril in just three years. Some of that is attributable to the recession. But the govt today is taking in more money than
If you want your voice heard, stop being a top poster. It irritates people.
I don't know how you can attribute the cause of the recession to Obama. It was the sub-prime mortgage collapse and the housing market which started the recession. And that clearly started the last year of the Bush administration. I would agree that had Obama taken a different approach the economy would be doing better today and we would have a stronger recovery.
Everything's Obama's fault. Just like the last recession was Clinton's fault. I blame socialists for all the world's ails.
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I don't know how you can attribute the cause of the recession to Obama. It was the sub-prime mortgage collapse and the housing market which started the recession. And that clearly started the last year of the Bush administration. I would agree that had Obama taken a different approach the economy would be doing better today and we would have a stronger recovery.
" snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Once more. This is the last time I try to educate you. After this you are on your own.
When this country was started in a rebellion against the British, the individual colonies (now called states) wanted to have more sovereignty than they were accorded. A bunch of guys, now commonly called the Founding Fathers, came up with a first draft of the country's basic document, and they called it the Articles of Confederation. That very rapidly proved unworkable and they reworked it until they came up with the Constitution, but immediately they added a bunch of Amendments called the Bill of Rights. More and more amendments followed later through the years. Some were considered good immediately, at least until now, but some were subsequently changed or retracted. To me that shows that the Constitution is indeed a living document subject to amendments, clarification and expansion.
You heard it here first, I think.
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:T9Akr.116913 $ snipped-for-privacy@news.usenetserver.com:
Granted that both sides are deficit spenders, there is still a clear difference, exemplified by the fact that the deficit has increased as much _each year_ under Obama as it did in _all eight years combined_ under Bush.
A viable third party alternative would be great -- but where is it? Too many of the Libertarians are obvious moonbats, and all of the other parties are even worse.
I blame top posters for all the world's ails. They are just as bad as socialists.
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erence, exemplified by the
it did in _all eight
I think you mean the national debt, not the deficit. And I think you better check the math on that one. The deficit increased about $5tril under Bush. If it increased $5tril each year under Obama, it would now be $25tril, which it isn't. He's increased it by $6tril in 3 years, which is more than the $5tril in the eight years of Bush and certain shocking enough.
any of the Libertarians
That;s for sure. Even some of the Tea Party are out to lunch. Back when they were raising the national debt last summer, Michelle Bachman kept saying she would not raise the limit no matter what. She insisted that the country could do just fine going cold turkey, ie going instantly to a balanced budget. That would have meant that starting in Aug last year, the govt would have funds to cover only 60% of the current spending rate. Now I'm all for cutting spending and I think there is a LOT that could be cut. But reducing it 40% instantly? She kept saying, "We can pay our troops, fund the military, we can pay social security and the interest on the national debt. Problem is that if you add up all that, and the similar committments like federal pensions, etc, there is nothing left to run things like the FBI, TSA, FAA, etc.
Just for that, I'm increasing your taxes. A lot.
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I blame top posters for all the world's ails. They are just as bad as socialists.
We may have some power if crooks eliminate electoral bull shit
Yawn.... Another clueless guy tilting at windmills. There is nothing to suggest that the electoral college is a problem or makes any difference in who's elected. Even if it flipped an election once in a while to the other guy, that sure wouldn't solve anything.
So, if the continue the electoral BS, we have less power? I think that's the point.
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So, is there any way to restore freedom, and have the Fed return to the limits of the Constitution?
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Yawn.... Another clueless guy tilting at windmills. There is nothing to suggest that the electoral college is a problem or makes any difference in who's elected. Even if it flipped an election once in a while to the other guy, that sure wouldn't solve anything.
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:Xmhlr.6864$ snipped-for-privacy@news.usenetserver.com:
The US has a fairly balanced system of checks and balances. Ultimately it is the electorate who decides these things, however indirectly, and however late and after the fact. Of course the SCOTUS decided that corporations are people and now the bosses of industry are as free to throw money at the electorate as anyone, except they have far more ...
That's about as likely as you realizing Top Posters are a PITA.
This is hardly news. The original SCOTUS discussion of the constitutional rights of corporations goes back to the mid1800s or so when SCOTUS decided that the taking clause also included taking things from corporations. The cases specific to the first amendment run back at least to the early 1930s or so. A scan of the Citizen's United opinion (and a quick find run on person and personhood) did not find any mention of the word(s). I never did get around to the concurring or dissenting opinions to see if the word pops up lower in the decision food chain.
You're incapable of controlling yourself? You must be a Democrat.
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