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On 11/25/2015 10:01 PM, Muggles wrote:

One time I went to a friend's wedding reception. The music was so loud, it was painful even with my hearing aids turned off. I hollered and sign language at the music people to turn down that damn noise. They looked at me like I was insane. I spent most of that event in the foyer, behind a layer of glass doors. Even then, it was a lot too much. Eventually, I left the premises.
I've also not been to any loud concerts.
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Per Stormin Mormon:

I incurred my hearing loss by clearing about an acre of our new house's land with a chain saw - over a period of about 2 weeks with no hearing protection. On a graph, it looks like a slice out of the frequencies I can hear.
Even so I'm half-deaf, I had a similar wedding experience to yours last week. Disk jockey was over-driving the sound system to the point where his comments were pretty much unintelligible - and not just to me.
But for me, there was also the sheer volume issue - this guy was exceeding my pain threshold and everything I have read says that once sound hurts, it is damaging the nerves in the cochlea.
We don't even go to movies anymore - seems like they all turn the volume up to "10".
Seems like the wedding experience came down to three qualities:
- Volume
- Choice of music
- Quality of sound.
First two, I can't really say anything about - young people vs old people and all that - but quality makes a huge diff to me. I can take quite a bit of volume if it's clean, but much less if it's dirty/distorted.
I think we now have a whole generation of hearing-impaired adults coming up - and maybe that explains why not enough people complain about the movie theater situation to make them change and nobody at the wedding seemed to be bothered by either the quality or volume of the sound.
When I can hear the music coming out of the earbuds on somebody 10 feet away from me I suspect two things: the guy has already damaged his hearing and the guy's hearing is being further damaged by the minute.
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On 11/26/2015 07:29 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

11 for the coming attractions... The loudest concert I've went to recently was the Dropkick Murphys and while it was loud I enjoyed it. I seldom go to movies at the mainstream theater but it seems they spent a lot of money on the sound system and want to get their money's worth.
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On 11/26/2015 8:29 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

I lost a portion of my hearing when I was 17, and I had a severe ear infection in both ears caused by allergies to second hand cigarette smoke. My parents were chain smokers and I was sick a lot like that. This particular infection happened over a weekend and I couldn't get to a Dr in time before both ear canals swelled shut. The Dr. had to see me every day for a week to rinse out the infection and clean them out with q-tips, which was so painful I'd cry like a baby just when he'd touch my ears, let alone go to cleaning them. By the 5th day, he finally could see my ear drums and the pain was bearable by that time. After the scabs fell off from the ear drums he told me there was some scarring, but didn't say anything about hearing loss.

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Per Muggles:

I has a similar experience in the military - except for typical incompetent military medical attention.
It was only one ear. When it was all over and the eardrum finally ruptured inwards (MAJOR sense of relief...), it wrapped around the little bones in the ear.
Got back to the doc that had not treated me properly, he snapped his fingers a few times, said "Can you hear that".... "Nope, not a thing...", then he took a look in there and this "Oh SHIT !" expression crossed his face... and I think he knew he could be in trouble over this one..... sent me to a specialist who took a little suction tube and un-stuck the eardrum from the bones and tacked it back in place.
But I do not think I lost any hearing from that one.... because it would have shown up on tests as different results for each ear.
A side "benefit" of the chain saw experience was constant very high pitched tones in both ears......
All-in-all, I'll take the deafness because before that I was constantly tormented by sounds that were above the pitch that most people can hear. Had to quit a perfectly good management trainee job at the local bank because I could hear the ultrasonic emitters for the security system and they practically blew my brains out....
OTOH, this lady who sat right under one of them - and claimed she could not hear anything - had these huge bags under he eyes and dark circles around her eyes - so I have to wonder if there is an effect even though a person cannot hear the sound.
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On 11/26/2015 3:12 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

wow. I've never heard of that kind of problem before.
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On 11/26/2015 6:39 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I feel your pain and aggravation.

Some years ago my office was located next door to a large room that was rented out to various groups for special events. They set up a large sound system and put gigantic speakers up against the wall that my office shared with them. One day I was working away in my nice quiet office when they turned the sound system on and proceeded to knock the clock I had on the wall onto the floor. I had to cover my ears and 'bout jumped out of my chair when the clock hit the floor. They'd turned up the sound system before, but not like that, and this was the last straw. I left my office, walked out of the building, out the door, around to their event entrance, covered my ears and approached the people "testing" the speakers. When they saw me they turned it down enough so they could hear me say, "Have you LOST your minds??? Do you realize you can damage my hearing? My office is on the other side of that --------> wall where those monster speakers are sitting, and those speakers just knocked my clock off my wall!! PLS turn it down!"
They looked at me as if "I" was the problem and said to me, "Can't you go work somewhere else?"
My response, "My OFFICE is there ---------->! What is wrong with you??"
They managed to turn it down and a few weeks later they had a representative go through our part of the building and listen to just how loud their music really was. } sheeeeeeesh

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On 11/26/2015 11:48 AM, Muggles wrote:

"can't you work some where else". Moments like that, large caliber handguns increase in appeal.
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On 11/26/2015 4:17 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

yeah like, where was I supposed to work? Oh, I could claim someone elses office? lol
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Per Oren:

My neighbor calls it "Male pattern deafness.".
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Per Oren:

I like one of my fellow windsurfer's "That woman can talk the balls off of a pool table."
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On 11/25/2015 12:11 PM, Muggles wrote:

I take business calls from a company. The woman (who has been sending me calls) phones, and I can make out about 1/4 of what she says. I read back to her what I thought she said, and ask her fill in the rest.
One call last week, I had a question. I carfully typed an email, and sent it off. About thirty seconds later, the phone rings. I answer. Can't hardly tell what she is saying. Some thing about a phone call being more personal. Yah, and also maddeningly frustrating when I have to try five times to (audio) hear what I could (visual) read on the screen. And I think and process information visually. So, I end up writing down what she said, and then reading it for my brain to comprehend what it took five tries for her to say.
Look, silly. I sent you an email. That means I want the reply by email, got it now?
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On 11/25/2015 4:31 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I like email. When that doesn't work and I can't get people to enunciate and talk clearly, I tell them "I can hear you talking but can't understand what you're saying!"
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On 11/25/2015 04:44 PM, Muggles wrote:

I sometimes have to deal with a company whose middle name is diversity. I try to keep it to email exchanges which works very well but some of the tech people, who apparently are taking an English as a Third Language course in their spare time, really like phone calls.
They're sharp and they sure as hell speak whatever their native language is far better than I, but it's painful.
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On 11/25/2015 8:28 PM, rbowman wrote:

I've been around many people from other countries, and one church we went to for a while, all the people were from Nigeria. Some spoke fairly clear English, but most of them had thick accents which were VERY hard for me to understand.
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On 11/25/2015 10:05 PM, Muggles wrote:

I also have trouble with Nigeria. Wonder what other "English" accents are dificult?
My own preference is Australian. some thing about that, I can listen all day, and just smile the whole time. Garoo, mayte?
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On 11/26/2015 6:41 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

That's a favorite accent of mine, too.
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On 11/26/2015 09:50 AM, Muggles wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res 05E7DF173BBB2CA7494CC6B6799C836896
I've never seen the original afaik, but Max Max was supposedly dubbed for the US audience since the distributor didn't think people could understand it. The review is also comical. I wonder how many times Buckley ate his words as sequel after sequel was pumped out?
I think that may be overstated. 'Stone' was a 1974 biker movie that preceded Mad Max with several actors being in both. I had no trouble with the dialog in that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_%281974_film%29
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On 11/26/2015 05:41 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Try 'Trainspotting', 'Sexy Beast', or 'The Navigators'. Some of the actors in the first two like Ewan MacGregor, Ben Kingsley, or Ray Winstone can speak standard English but went native for their roles. Ken Loach mainly used native Yorkies in Navigator and for them there's no hope.
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Per Muggles:

The most difficult for me are from certain areas in India.
Areas or social classes.... I'm not sure which...
AFIK, English is the official language of India and people from India know in their hearts that they speak perfect English....
Some speak really classy English - I wish *I* could talk that well.... but others can be difficult to understand..... but they get impatient with me when I ask them to repeat because, after all, they are native English speakers and why can't I understand perfectly-clear English ?
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