OT: Shut down the %#@*& government

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Evan wrote:

The military also uses - or used to use - the FBI as well. When I was in the Navy in the 50s I needed a top secret clearance for my job and various FBI types visited family and friends.
I got my clearance and spent the next six months writing "TOP SECRET" backwards with India ink on aerial negatives (we were mapping China). Boring? Oh, my, I was sooo glad to be transfered to a PIO lab :)
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On Mar 2, 2:01 pm, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

If you are having to provide a thumbprint to obtain a driver's license, your state is going overboard and that is NOT a federal requirement of the Real ID program... I am aware of two states who fully comply with the Real ID system which was more about standardizing the security features and information displayed on driver's licenses as well as using information technology systems which were compatible so that a national database was available for every state's DMV/RMV and law enforcement personnel to be able to request info on a person and get back a history of where that person has been and if the license they have presented is in fact still valid... Up until about five years ago, many times you couldn't verify out-of-state ID's without someone making a phone call to a state police official in the state the ID was issued so that it could be verified by someone inside that system... The connections between systems were very buggy and would decide themselves whether or not they wanted to work that month/week/day/hour/minute or not...
So the Real ID system established a set of behind the scenes rules for the way that state authorities who issue driver's licenses must comply with in order for the system to work with much more stability and have everyone's IT infrastructure be compatible and collect the same information...
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There's a couple of other circular terms that come to mind ...........
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:38:38 -0500, " snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net"

BTW, I wasnt' doubting your experience. Just didnt' want to leave the impression dealing with the SSA was always this hard.
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Exactly. Sometimes it is harder. They had my birth date wrong. Took me two years to get it resolved.
Last year though, I signed up for Medicare and that went easy. I did it on line.
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So you needed to CHANGE your social security number ?
That seems like an odd thing to do... Unless you had specific reasons like identity theft or something and that requires a lot of documentation...
Umm... You see it as going through circles... It really isn't...
Most people out there NEVER change their name, especially men... So requiring a court document officiating the name change is fairly routine...
Why did you change your name while you were married, that sort of issue only usually applies to the female in a marriage ?
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Evan wrote:

Maybe because snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net is a female. Norma?
IMO, I think women should change their name when they marry, avoids confusion with the kids for one thing. That doesn't mean that a career woman can't continue to use her maiden name professionally.
Actually, I don't much care *what* the name change convention is, just that it be standardized to avoid confusion. I rather like the Spanish way...a married woman retains her paternal surname and tacks on the husbands; for example, Maria Gonzales (father) Sanchez (mother) becomes Maria Gonzales Sanchez) de Vera if she marries Jaime Vera. Their kid, Jesus, is Jesus Vera Gonzales; he generally calls himself Jesus Vera or maybe Jesus Vera G. The continuation of the matrimonial surname for children serves to distinguish him from other kids named Jesus Vera and satisfies both sides of the family.
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On 3/3/2011 11:06 AM, dadiOH wrote:

Names are over-rated and a pain in the ass. For awhile, I did computer account updates at work. There are some women in that building who ran through 4 husbands and names while I knew them. I don't have an answer for what to name the kids, but people should keep the name they were born with. 'Same name as the kids' doesn't hold much water any more, with such a high percentage of marriages ending up in divorce, and so many blended families. Just look at the wedding announcements in your local paper, and read the parental names usually contained therein.
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dadiOH wrote:

My wife changed MY name.
After the first year she started calling me "Muthfcker!"
I knew I was in trouble one day when it dawned on me that I was answering to it.
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I kept my maiden name for my first marriage, and took his name for my second. The plain and simple truth is that I liked my name better than #1's, but I preferred #2's name to my maiden name.
I was 22 when I married bachelor #1, and 32 when I married bachelor #2. I'm 54 now.
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So, who are you?
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I was permanently totally disabled in Oct, 2004, or thereabouts. I filed the SS papers. Each year, they sent me a 1099 for the monies they SHOULD have been sending me, plus a tax bill. When I would ask for an accounting, they sent me a sheet that looks like that text you get when you convert a binary to text. All little squiggles, squares, and gobbledygook. And when you call them, you get someone in a yurt in Kazakhstan. It took me a very very very very long time to get it all straightened out, and I would have never gotten it straight had it not been for a friend who has a relative in the local office. FINALLY, I got checks to make it right. About $54,000. How many people would have quit fighting them or died in the process? Quite a few by my estimation.
Write down every phone call and letter and who you talked to.
Good luck.
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Having read all of the replies, I'd like to repeat what I have said before on this and other fora: Use your elected officials to get results in situations like this! They LOVE to do "constituent services" = votes, in their minds. Why waste your time and energy?
How many NG members actually KNOW who is their Member of Congress or Senator? Or their State representatives? Trust me, a polite call/ letter/email to them brings RESULTS. They would have had your matter taken care of before breakfast. You pay your elected reps; put them to work for you. I have done this successfully on several matters (unconnected with SS).
That said, I personally have never had problems with local SS, and am sorry about your long delays.
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Thanks. Fortunately, the matter is only a minor irritation and a little funny, in consideration of the ease at which I think it could have been handled by SS. And fortunately, there has been no loss or deprivation brought to me as some might have encountered by SS mucking around.
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We had an old Teamsters joke:
How many Teamsters and how long does it take to get my freight here?
Who cares? You got a problem wit dat?
Change a couple of words and you got the U. S. Government when you have a problem.
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On 3/2/2011 2:50 PM, Higgs Boson wrote: (snip)

Personally, I don't want them or their staffs doing errands for me, unless maybe I run into a total brick wall. I want them doing their damn job out on the floor, and passing some damn appropriations bills, something they collectively have gotten at best a 'D' on, the last several years. That is their main job duty, and they can't even get THAT done.
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LOL. So true. I didn't bother posting my SS experience - no problems at all. Just don't like commies calling me a socialist. But you forgot something. None of the politicians are talking about stopping the SS for these old farts. So they got theirs. Fuck everybody else. My wife has been on her feet all day cooking for 28 years. Lugging around 5 gallon kettles of soup, cutting so much meat and veggies that she gets occasional nerve pain. Making not even double minimum wage. But she's fit and still likes to work. There's millions of workers like her out there. She was looking forward to retiring after 14 more years, at 62. Personally, I don't think she can go that long doing what she's doing. Think she'll get a measly $800-900 SS check. Now you got these fat-ass millionaire politicians and those that vote them in saying she'll have to work until 70 for that. Hear them and the wealthy talking heads saying that every day. That's ok though. They already got theirs. Yep. Real funny.
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In my case, I was only trying to get my own money back. Took nearly four years.
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:21:59 -0800, "SteveB"

That sounds a little low. I paid $104,300 from 1966 to 1996 (the max every year) I started collecting at age 64 last fall and they pay me $1605.20 a month (before taxes). That is 5.4 years to get all my money back ... assuming zero interest on the money they held for all that time.
Sometime if I get bored I will make up a spread sheet and see what that would have returned at the prevailing CD rates over those years, My guess is a quarter million or more. I probably do not want to know ;-)
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On 3/2/2011 5:36 PM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

The people that claim we get back more than we put in piss me off because if it were ours to save we would have collected interest. If I had it put in my 401k, I'd probably get twice as much back and for a much longer period even with conservative investments.
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