I don't see a problem with telling police where it is; I'd also write
down the VIN. Plates could be stolen and that owner not aware? Causing
problems for owner? I think they already have problems, ie leaving a
car with a flat. Back in my younger days, our decrepit Simca was
towed....finally....'cause we couldn't drive it and couldn't afford to
fix it. Barely could afford food, and that was one student and one
employed newlyweds :o)
Wow! Definite plus 1. If it's been used in a crime then Micky's
contaminated the crime scene. There are so MANY reasons to let the cops do
their job and so FEW to pump up the tire or touch the car in any way. If
something happened to the owner, delaying contact with police could have
really bad results. FWIW, by asking to run the plate but refusing to say
where it was you've now placed yourself among the people cops think are
suspicious. I'll bet they have your caller ID and have already started
looking around. For you. (-:
reading all the responses, I will toss in mine:
1. try again with the police. Maybe go to the station with the license
plate written down. I have had it go both ways "we can't tell you - where
is the car?" and a smirk, eyes rolling directed at the "smarty pants
citizen", run the plate, and then "yes, it is stolen - where is it?". If
they won't just run it, tell them where it is and let them investigate.
2. If you can, see if the police will at least tell you if the registered
address is in your HOA, so you can try to locate the owner and prevent it
being towed by the HOA. I have had a cop in a cruiser tell me the
registered address so I could walk across the street and tell them to move
their car or it will be towed. Of course, this was right there, and the cop
told me the address once he realized what the deal was - I was dong this guy
3. Does your HOA not keep a list of license numbers and HOA owners? Many
do. Do any neighbors know who the car belongs to? Are their assigned
4. If you can determine the car is not stolen, belongs to an HOA owner, and
you can locate him (or the police can do a welfare check), and you realize
he is simply out of town, tell the HOA to give the guy and his car a break.
If they seem belligerent as most HOAs are, keep filling up the tire, or
forget about it - your choice.
I concur with the thoughts to let the police do their job. The car could be
stolen, or it could belong to a lady who has fallen and can't get up. Try
to eliminate these types of possibilities first.
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:09:58 AM UTC-4, Pico Rico wrote:
Note that none of the above is consistent with letting the police do
their job. Having folks waste police time, trying to get them to
run license plates, when they refuse to do it, isn't productive. Police
won't just run plates for you. I think they are probably rightly
concerned that they might be running the plate for a stalker, pissed of
husband, etc up to no good. If I was a cop, I'd wonder what the hell is
wrong with someone that is so obsessed with a car that they want to come
over and talk to me about it, badger me, when I offered to take care of
the mystery car if they just tell me where it is. I'd might start to
run a check on them.
Getting shot is also a possibility
Call the cops, let them handle it or just let it go.
Around here, I would guess it was just a snow bird who will be here
sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
On 10/15/2014 10:17 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Except that most states have data privacy laws that restrict the
amount of information that is considered public, which usually renders
the information available next to useless for the average snoop. Also,
it's not unusual to restrict individual access to only that
individual's information; if you want someone else's, you need their
I am not sure about all HOAs but the rules at the one my wife runs is
renters register their cars. Owners do not have to.
Usually there will be someone who knows who the car belongs to anyway.
That is where the HOA management simply needs to know someone in the
gossip network. If they have a country club, I would start with the
wait staff. They hear everything and know who to ask if they haven't
There might be a chance that the car's owner just does not get out
much and they don't even know they have a bad tire because Micky keeps
it aired up for them
It might just be a little old lady who owes him a big batch of
I was referring to this type of authorization/consent:
"Also, it's not unusual to restrict individual access to only that
individual's information; if you want someone else's, you need their written
It has most certainly happened. For instance, the birther lunatics
have openly boasted about forging credentials in order to unlawfully
access the President's Selective Service record. They've also gained
access to commercial databases to get his SSN and publicized that. In
my state, there's a huge pile of lawsuits pending due to persons
working in law enforcement and other parts of the government who
habitually snooped the records of many private individuals. It's one
thing to have a cop run your plate on a traffic stop. It's another
thing to find out that the cops were routinely looking up information
on any pretty girl they encountered, as well as on their neighbors,
and their exes' significant others, etc.
People found this out by filing requests to see who'd accessed their
data. One woman discovered that her records had been accessed by
dozens of cops hundreds of time. It turned out that one of the cops
decided she was hot, and spread the word, so all of his buddies looked
her up, too.
In my town it's illegal to leave your car parked on the street
overnight. The police don't rigorously enforce the law, but I was
ticketed once many years ago.
I would consider a car that has been sitting on a public street in the
same place with flat tires for 3 weeks to probably be abandoned. If I
saw such a car in my neighborhood I would definitely consider calling
the police. Especially if it's near my property. I'd probably ask some
of the neighbors if they knew anything about it first.
Same here. So when a car was left overnight across the street from my
house, my neighbors called the cops. The cops blew them off. So the
hubby goes to check out the car. He discovered it was unlocked and had
camera and computer gear on the front seat. He called the cops again,
thinking it must have been stolen, only to be blown off again. He was
*furious* - and then he got a call from the chief of police. It was a
bait car. They were trying to catch a thief, but all the attention he
was paying to the car was not helping. The chief asked him to knock it
off and keep quiet about it. Naturally, he spread the word, and
naturally, no thief touched the car. After a week, the cops showed up
and towed it away.
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:15:26 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Fortunately you're not a judge, those cases have withstood legal challenges
and they almost always result in a conviction. I see absolutely nothing
wrong with a bait car,
where they leave a rigged car in a high car theft area, leave it unlocked,
keys in it. I'm amazed you'd think that's tempting a non-thief. If
you go into a car you don't own and drive away, you are a thief, period.
If they didn't take the bait car, it would be someone else's car and
the perps would likely never be caught.
You are assuming they would take another car. I'm sure some would, but
if you leave a piece of candy on the table, would your 6 year old just
Maybe I'd go after a repeat offender, but I'd not jail a first offender.
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